Listerman

the 2.2 better have a promising future, i plan to boost the hell out of mine

Halfcent

The L61 Ecotecs face a very specific challenge. There are 2 model years (05 and 06) that used a rare and older design ECM, the E16. It can be tuned and flashed like any other computer, but you still have to have software to do it. And now, that computer is even more orphaned by the 2007 model year switching to a bright shiny new computer, the E37. The current model year is an all around improvement, and I believe it will prove to be an easier engine to tune. However, it does leave us 05 and 06 guys left to wonder if we will ever be supported.

I haven't heard anything from the guys at HP Tuners for a while. I'm left only to believe that they are in fact still working on it.

Cobalt_Supercharged

I hope they are. I really want to see what your set up will do.

halfj99

they sure better lol

brianm01

Does anyone know for sure if the 07 2.2 has vvt or not, and would it be possible to upgrade to the E37 ecu.

NJHK

Every 2.2 ECOTEC is non-VVT.

Halfcent

Where did you get that idea? The 07 models still have the regular L61 2.2L and the LE5 2.4LVVT.

And you don't have to upgrade an 07 L61 to an E37 computer because it already has it.

Listerman

Halfcent - you know for sure HP Tuners has started working with the 2.2 ecu? If they started a project i highly doubt they will ditch it but, then again you never know.

Halfcent

They do say in their own web site forum that they will support it, so we are all waiting to see.
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6128

RedBaseBolt

They posted about starting to look at the ECU in a month or 2 3 months ago...We're still waiting...

Cobalt_Supercharged

So if someone cracks the E37 and not the E16, what's to stop you from switching the PCM?

RedBaseBolt

Nothing except a lot of time, stress, and wiring problems of course.

Halfcent

It would be the same issue as we are discussing actually for the LE5 ECM swap. You would still need to flash the computer with the correct model year program and splice in the correct connector using a pin-out diagram.

The new ECM can not just be plugged into the older car. The new car has a completely different ignition system.

montecarloman

It is an interesting idea if we cant get support from the aftermarket. I have been researching the idea of using an SS/SC computer in a 2.2 with a manual trans. It can be done however every pin must be changed around in the ECM connectors, a cam sensor must be installed (that may require an SS/SC head), and some other odd end wires must be ran. So far from what I can tell it can be done its just very labor intensive and most likely damn expensive. I am going to continue my research, however I'm still hoping a company cracks the sucker.

Cobalt_Supercharged

I was kinda hoping they would keep the same connectors and what not. Oh well. Someone better crack the E16. Halfcent, I want to see your car tear up the track.

montecarloman

The connectors are the same its just the actual wire locations in the connectors thats different.