06Orangels

Just got off the phone with gm and i asked when they were going to release the supercharger for the 2.2 and she said that the dealer would know before anyone else..

RuSSo-29

HERE WE GO ALL OVER AGAIN!!! Just like the dealer's knew about the stage kits right?? oh man. I'm loosing hope for this 2.2L Supercharger!

06Orangels

They said it was being devoloped..But im thinking why are they devoloping it if its already been made for the cavalier? oh well i guess we will all find out when it gets here.. I was just passing the news on but now that im thinking about it i see you point..

avro206

ha ha --that was a polite answer for I don't know! Dealers are generally very stupid--I usually know more then they do.

I honestly see no reason for GM to make a S/C for the 2.2L.

It would cost alot of time, money and resources that could be better spnet elsewhere.

If you want high performance Cobalt---go SS/SC. If you can't swing that then go 2.4L SS. Or the aftermarket.

dnbguy86

You know, i've quite had it with people hating on the 2.2L. Is that why there's a phase 5 kit for the 2.2L and not the 2.0L, and why does the 1400hp variant of the ecotec race motor use a 2.2L and not a 2.0L, all im saying is give credit where it is due, the 2.2L ecotec has huge potential...

avro206

Your completely misreading my post. I never said I hate the 2.2L or don't like it. I never said it did not have potential. So please--quit putting words in my mouth.

The 2.2L was the first ecotec--hence proably why the RACE engines put out so much power.

But from a business case I don't see GM developing a supercharger for the 2.2L.

Durability and warranty issues have to be dealt with. It has to be emission legal. And the biggest question of all---can they sell enough to recoup all these development costs? GM does not have infinite resources and money to do everything you would like.

06Orangels

It wasnt the dealer that i talked to.it was someone from lordstown

06Orangels

It wasnt the dealer that i talked to.it was someone from lordstown

theBLUEone

Also, GM's race engine is a 2.0L Eco it uses the 2.2L Eco's block as does the LSJ...

Cobalt30

they have an ss s/c and a na ss so i doubt they would come up w/ a s/c just for the 2.2 eco. As much as id like to see one made for our cars i doubt it will happen.

they only made the s/c for the cavalier/sunfire because they didnt have higher performance sport compact cars like the gto and the ss s/c .

thats my .02 cents and im sticking to it.

FRIARPOP

if gm doesnt make it someone else will, and it will be better than anything gm could ever dream of.

CTCOBALTSSS

I don't get it. Why do all you 2.2 guys want to get a supercharger? Why didn't you just get the SS/SC with the supercharger and a lot more?

qcpursuit

If you check in the ecotec build book for a 05 base cobalt,they use a gm supercharger using a gm number 17800003
this number work in the gm system(Im trying it right now) and it wort 5300$ canadian
now is the number in the built book give the right package or not,but im 100% sure of that number and its for a supercharger package

hope I can help with that

slowion2

^^^ that's the one I was speaking of in another thread, thanks dude

not everyone wants to be the same. some perfer the road less traveled. it's not exactly impossible to have a base Cobalt perform like a SS/SC, just takes some work, and more often then not will be less overall cost.

97cavie24ls

get the cavalier kit , as it will bolt to the 2.2 cobalt , since the motor is the same

sell the parts that arent needed , tb adaptor , cruise cable

use your stock tb on the ens of the s/c , and have your vin reflashed with the 2.0sc vin


all ya need

Cobalt30

possible reasons for you

1. the SS S/C wasnt available when somebody bough their car (like myself)
2. people cant afford the higher insurence rates for a "sports car".
3. people not be able to afford the payments
4. people might of not been approved for a 22K loan compaired to a 13K loan.
5. people like to do the tuning them selves.
6. people may want to be original
7. people say the ecotec is more of a better building base to start on. (look at half cents project)
8. they may of wanted to go Turbo but now switching to S/C.


theres a few reasons for ya.

CynicX

I dunno about that. TRD developes S/Cers for alot of Toyotas and Scions....The Scion T/C S/C kit cost 3250 bucks!!! I had a 3.4 Tacoma and got a TRD S/C for it for around 1800 bucks. They have S/C's for ALOT of their motors and make alot of money selling and installing them....

I only matters if the market is there....

Raiden8816

iTrader: (3)

Agreed, the SS/SC payments are really high and my parents told me insurance will be too high because it is a "Super Sport." But, I fell like I got screwed, my insurance is $1,700 for six months, that includes all the discounts......good student, etc.

I can just imagine how much myself and my parents pay for insurance, car payments and the good old gas bill.

IonNinja

If I went with an SC kit for the 2.2 it would be a centrifugal blower so it'd actually make some power as opposed to what they offer now.

Not worth it IMO...might as well step it up to the SS/SC. Truth be told, if you can't afford SS/SC car payments and insurance how the hell can you afford a SC kit?

cashstacker

Agreed. I have no problem with the 2.2 trying to build it up, but you need to realize you'll need to buy better rims and tires, possibly a new tranny, I'd imagine youd want to replace the suspension and what not so it handles better, new exhaust, etc. It seems like no one is thinking about what else you would need to replace besides just slapping a blower on there.

Cobalt30

some people like myself work mainly during the summer since im a full time college student and wouldnt be able to afford the payments. but yet during the summer i make enough where i could put a s/c on it if i wished to go that route. so hows that sound for an answere for ya.

IonNinja

if you can make between 4-5K in 3 months time and spend every last dime you make for that kit then good for you. but chances are you wont do that and if you do save up for a kit it is going to take you a lengthy amount of time. and being that it is going to take you a while to save up, you may as well make some power from the modifications because I'm seriously willing to bet that for the money, the gains will be disappointing.

Cobalt30

I personally wouldnt go the s/c way n e who. but i could get it in 2 months tops for i get aprox.2400 a month. (working for the goverment has its perks : ) . id rather turbo personally. but my goals as of now if i move out this summer im staying w/ my car but if i dont then if i can find a used ss s/c. ill prolly be going that way since ill be home during school and can work then. and ill have a semester off from school between transfering as well to work. so only time can tell.

FRIARPOP

Disappointing?try 250hp

http://www.paceperformance.com/index...&ProdID=167186


JOY!

Cobalt30

not bad at all. jsut as much hp the hanh will prolly be producing w/ their 3500-4k turbo kit. also at gmpartsdirect that supercharger kit costs 2845. so im guessing that pace place is a better deal then our dealerships for those interested.