Roadrunner

lol i gotta try that next time i want some..

how much of a diff did you find that throttle spacer made? i have heard some nice things about air raid. do you have any other ideas beyond your mod list to make a little more power out of a n/a 2.2l?

traviskearney

I'm not doing anything other than what I've done. I have 222whp when needed for a run on the track, and that's enough for me. A lot of people say that the spacer does nothing, but I honestly noticed a much quicker throttle response, louder intake, and more power. I gained 51.8 crank with my CAI, Spacer, Ceramic Header, and Exhaust. I find it hard to believe that some of that extra power did not come from the spacer. If it didn't, that is like a 17hp gain for each of the other 3 mods. I don't think that happened. Also, Why would they sell it and not get sued for false advertising if it did nothing.

wikkymaster

full exhaust and intake gave you 51.8 hp???? i find that real hard to believe...

i had a airraid tb spacer on my old cav and it was a waste of money, i think its mostly in your head if you think its actually helping....not trying to start a war or anything

but yea, if thats all true i cant wait to get full exhaust lol

FLCobalt

they sell those ebay chips and say they give 40+ hp are they getting sued? lol

Roadrunner

no but those actually give what they claim, they just dont tell you about the damage its gonna do to your engine.
51.7 hp gain is a large gain from 3-4 mods but he has the dyno sheet up....i dont see why someone would claim to have less than what they actually have. i was kinda questioning the tb spacer cause it is the oddball in the equation here, theres a lot of cars with just bolt ons.

traviskearney

The spacer complements the CAI a lot. With just the CAI I noticed a bit of a gain. After I added the spacer I noticed a great gain. Maybe alone the spacer does little, but I never ran with just the spacer.

IonNinja

all I know is I hope my car responds to mods this well...

Roadrunner

me too, if it doesnt work out, we will just have to come on here and tell everyone how shitty it is...

traviskearney

I would think with the Cobalt having 145hp to start you might be closer to 197 than 192. Also I'm wondering if my car was "underrated" as a lot of these seem to be, and i didn't start out with 140.

IonNinja

well those were going to be my exact mods so hopefully this is legit. What shot of nitrous are you running because you said you are makin 222whp on nitrous. That is right up my alley and actually exceeds my power goals by 22whp.

traviskearney

That was using the 75 N2O jet and the 55 gasoline jet. I was to ritch with the 75 and 65 gasoline jets. I had a wheel gain of 25 with the 75 jet, and a wheel gain of 56 with the 65 jet. I gained 72 with the 55 gas jet and my fuel/air was about 13.4. I think it's a timing issue, why the 75 and 75 don't work together. If I run a 55 N20 jet and a 55 gasoline jet, I have a 13.3 fuel/air, and 205 whp. That's all with a ZEX wet kit. Sorry, but i paid $100/hour to tune my system to see what was best for it fuel/air\timing wise, so I don't have any sheets to post because I tried about 10 different combinations and just read the screen and went quickly from one to the other.

alleycat58

No, it's not. Doesn't matter what the car, Porche, Corvette, Ferrari, doesn't matter...a guy's car doesn't make me want the guy who owns it. And I won't drive a guy's car unless a) it's a true sports car and b) it's a manual.

Roadrunner

Uh oh, one of those "dont call me a chick" chicks

IonNinja

*cough*bullshit*cough*

IonNinja

do you have any idea what the duty cycle is at on the injectors on a 75 shot? I'm wondering why with over forms of FI the injectors need to be upgraded but on a nitrous shot the stock injectors are fine.

traviskearney

I didn't say it makes you want the guy. It makes YOU feel sexy, like Lingerie. Why do you like wearing lingerie? Cause you feel more confident and sexier, and want someone to tame the tiger inside. Of course with you, I'm assuming it has to be Ruby-increased Victoria Secret lingerie. And I'm glad you like to drive stick.

traviskearney

No idea about the injectors....all I know is what the computer read in the fuel/air ratio box....and that the ZEX kit is designed to work with stock injectors, and if I added heavier ones it would be super ritch. The only FI I've ever owned has been a blown 1972 Olsmobile Cutlass Supreme and a Stock Turbo Crysler Lebaron. The Cutlass ruled and the Lebaron sucked more than it blew.

Roadrunner

Travis...im a little nervous, you seem to know a little too much about victoria secret....

alleycat needs to post pics of her in that lingerie....anyone else agree?

traviskearney

I peel a lot off.

CobaltCoupeCrazy

iTrader: (1)

I contacted RSM and asked why the TB for the Saturn Ion's wouldn't work on the Cobalts. Answer: Saturn's use a mechanical TB and Chevrolet's use an Electric TB

If anyone finds a larger TB for the Cobalts. I wanna know about it. I plan on getting the SCDyne Double Ceramic Coated Header, an Intake, TB, and the Corsa Exhaust for starters. I just saw on the AEM site that the CAI for the Cobalts makes less power than on the Cavaliers at only 4.4HP for Cobalts with 2.2L. I'll wait and see what K&N and Injen can do for the 2.2L.


Scott

celicacobalt

if you want the top of the line intake then go for the weapon r secret weapon can be had for about 150 shipped from wesellcarparts.com, it has special techniology in it that supposedly gives higher gains then all the other intakes

Roadrunner

there was someone on ecotecpower that tried both, was actually quite disappointed with how the weapon r stacked up against aem. from what i hear injen has been pushing more gains than aem.

traviskearney

I think we're loosing site of the topic here. Alleycat in ruby incrusted Victoria Secret.

IonNinja

um what? there is no throttle cable on my car

I think he needs to specify years because 2003 and 2004 Ions I think are mechanical but not 05-06 Ions.

CobaltCoupeCrazy

iTrader: (1)

I'm just re-stating what RSM Racing told me after I inquired about the 62mm TB for the Ion and why it wouldn't work on the Cobalt. I suppose Saturn may have switched to the Electric TB's as well. Just re-stating what I was told.


Scott