2.2L Turbo 04 ION 15 lbs boost and no tuning,
03-14-2008, 02:06 PM
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2.2L Turbo 04 ION 15 lbs boost and no tuning,
i was talking with brian fox from fox marketing. he was telling me about his 04 ion that he ran a turbo on. this car was built in 04 and he said he ran to tuning at all. ran 15 pounds of boost. with no issues. 20,000 miles later the car still running 100%.
here is a link:
http://www.foxmarketing.net/project_cars.php?car=4
here is a link:
http://www.foxmarketing.net/project_cars.php?car=4
03-14-2008, 03:30 PM
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so just because hes stupid enough to do that...doesn't mean anyone else should attempt it.
That is obviously a show car so I'd have to argue how much that car is even driven.
That is obviously a show car so I'd have to argue how much that car is even driven.
03-14-2008, 04:18 PM
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nope he actully drove this one. i called BS on his right to his face. and he explained it all. he did this ion and also an 01 sc2 turbo. have a look at the list of car he has built.
sc2 link:
http://www.foxmarketing.net/project_cars.php?car=15
'08 Ford Focus Coupe Turbo
'08 Nissan Altima Coupe
'08 Nissan Altima Coupe
'08 Xtreme Ride Revamp Honda Fit
'07 Nissan Versa Turbo
'07 Xtreme Ride Revamp Faulkner Honda Civic Ex
'07 Xtreme Ride Revamp Nissan Versa
'06 BMW 330 E90
'06 Ford Mustang GT
'06 Honda Civic Si
'06 Mazda 3 Wide Body
'05 Lamborghini Gallardo
'05 Mazda 3 Giveaway Car
'05 Mazda RX-8
'05 Pontiac Vibe GT
'05 SCION XB
'05 Xtreme Ride Revamp Saturn ION Quad Coupe
'04 Saturn ION Quad Coupe
'04 Sea Doo GTI LE
'04 Subaru STI Wide Body
'03 Acura CL Type S (Silver)
'03 Acura CL Type S (Red)
'03 BMW 745Li
'02 BMW M3
'02 Audi A4
'02 Hundai Tiburon
'02 Subaru WRX
'02 Toyota Celica GTS Wide Body
'01 BMW E46 M3 Wide Body
'01 Ford Cougar
'01 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo
'01 BMW 325 Ci
'01 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT
'01 Saturn SC Turbo Concept
'00 Audi S4
'00 BMW E46
'00 Honda S2000
'99 Acura Integra GSR (White)
'99 Audi A4 1.8L Quattro
'99 Acura Integra GSR (Red)
'99 Ford Mustang GT
'99 Honda Prelude SH
'98 VW Jetta
'98 Honda Civic EX
'98 Jeep Wrangler Sport
'98 VW Golf GTI Wide Body
'98 Xtreme Ride Revamp Civic EX
'97 Honda Civic Coupe
'97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
'97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
'97 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
'95 Honda Civic Hatch VX
'95 Dodge Stratus ES
'94 Honda Civic Ex
'92 Honda Civic Hatch Wide Body
sc2 link:
http://www.foxmarketing.net/project_cars.php?car=15
'08 Ford Focus Coupe Turbo
'08 Nissan Altima Coupe
'08 Nissan Altima Coupe
'08 Xtreme Ride Revamp Honda Fit
'07 Nissan Versa Turbo
'07 Xtreme Ride Revamp Faulkner Honda Civic Ex
'07 Xtreme Ride Revamp Nissan Versa
'06 BMW 330 E90
'06 Ford Mustang GT
'06 Honda Civic Si
'06 Mazda 3 Wide Body
'05 Lamborghini Gallardo
'05 Mazda 3 Giveaway Car
'05 Mazda RX-8
'05 Pontiac Vibe GT
'05 SCION XB
'05 Xtreme Ride Revamp Saturn ION Quad Coupe
'04 Saturn ION Quad Coupe
'04 Sea Doo GTI LE
'04 Subaru STI Wide Body
'03 Acura CL Type S (Silver)
'03 Acura CL Type S (Red)
'03 BMW 745Li
'02 BMW M3
'02 Audi A4
'02 Hundai Tiburon
'02 Subaru WRX
'02 Toyota Celica GTS Wide Body
'01 BMW E46 M3 Wide Body
'01 Ford Cougar
'01 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo
'01 BMW 325 Ci
'01 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT
'01 Saturn SC Turbo Concept
'00 Audi S4
'00 BMW E46
'00 Honda S2000
'99 Acura Integra GSR (White)
'99 Audi A4 1.8L Quattro
'99 Acura Integra GSR (Red)
'99 Ford Mustang GT
'99 Honda Prelude SH
'98 VW Jetta
'98 Honda Civic EX
'98 Jeep Wrangler Sport
'98 VW Golf GTI Wide Body
'98 Xtreme Ride Revamp Civic EX
'97 Honda Civic Coupe
'97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
'97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
'97 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
'95 Honda Civic Hatch VX
'95 Dodge Stratus ES
'94 Honda Civic Ex
'92 Honda Civic Hatch Wide Body
03-14-2008, 05:47 PM
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ok do any of u ****** idiots read the actual page??he tows a ****** seadoo behind it...he does drive this car...and hes obvously nota joke..look how many cars he has built. hes a ****** genious
03-14-2008, 05:49 PM
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so genious he built an untuned turbo show car
there was a local Cavalier guy here that was running 13's w/ a completely untuned Hahn turbo kit
just because he does it doesn't mean he should be looked up to or taken as "maybe i can run my car untuned temporarily"
i'm willing to bet its not completely untuned though...at the very least I bet hes running an FMU and just stressing the hell outta the stock injectors.
there was a local Cavalier guy here that was running 13's w/ a completely untuned Hahn turbo kit
just because he does it doesn't mean he should be looked up to or taken as "maybe i can run my car untuned temporarily"
i'm willing to bet its not completely untuned though...at the very least I bet hes running an FMU and just stressing the hell outta the stock injectors.
03-14-2008, 05:52 PM
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i would kill people to get this civic... http://www.foxmarketing.net/project_cars.php?car=54
******* look at the rest of the cars...this guy sbeen doing this since before 90% of u had a license....just cuz u all cant do it..doesnt mean it cant be done.
and i fu read the ****** website u will find out that he drives that car.
******* look at the rest of the cars...this guy sbeen doing this since before 90% of u had a license....just cuz u all cant do it..doesnt mean it cant be done.
and i fu read the ****** website u will find out that he drives that car.
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03-14-2008, 05:56 PM
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i would kill people to get this civic... http://www.foxmarketing.net/project_cars.php?car=54
******* look at the rest of the cars...this guy sbeen doing this since before 90% of u had a license....just cuz u all cant do it..doesnt mean it cant be done.
and i fu read the ****** website u will find out that he drives that car.
******* look at the rest of the cars...this guy sbeen doing this since before 90% of u had a license....just cuz u all cant do it..doesnt mean it cant be done.
and i fu read the ****** website u will find out that he drives that car.
okay little boytake your snow plow razzi kit somewhere and get a clue
I don't care how many cars hes done, if he half asses them like he has supposedly done this one then good for him. take your car to him so he can blow it up...
03-14-2008, 07:53 PM
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you sound like you have personally inspected these cars...fill me i on what im missing. enlighten me on how they are half asses sir. Or atleast the ones besides the ion w/o tuning.
03-14-2008, 08:01 PM
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Here are the facts boy and girls. Twistec Performance in Ohio did the turbo kit in 2004 and Jeff who owned the company at the time engineered it. Brian took his car to him and with the 04 computer at the time it just didn't need it he told him.
Here is the reason why you don't need it. When Jeff from Twistec put it on the dyno he checked the air/fuel number and they read 14.2 at full boost which is not lean or rich on the dyno. That is how you can tell whether at car needs tuning or not by your air/fuel reading. If you have good air/fuel number you are good to go because the car will not lean out and blow up. In this case, the car was good to go and Brian got the car back.
Now, in 2004 Brian beat the living **** out of the and towed the Sea Doo behind it turbo'ed up and down the East Coast to go to GM type events like Tuner Bash in Daytona Beach. The car wasn't meant to be a show car, or even entered a show. It was built to beat the **** out of and drive. That is why Fox designs car, is to drive just like you.
Last year he sold the car to a kid in SC who was in the Airforce and I think he ended up selling it and buying a new Mustang or some ****.
Bottom line, he isn't blowing smoke, not his style. He heard people where saying it couldn't be done and was a worry to other. If he can go 20,000 miles with with the factory ECU, then if you have that year or close you should be able to. Also, there where no check engine lights in the car which is good. It passed emissions in PA which is good!
Here is the reason why you don't need it. When Jeff from Twistec put it on the dyno he checked the air/fuel number and they read 14.2 at full boost which is not lean or rich on the dyno. That is how you can tell whether at car needs tuning or not by your air/fuel reading. If you have good air/fuel number you are good to go because the car will not lean out and blow up. In this case, the car was good to go and Brian got the car back.
Now, in 2004 Brian beat the living **** out of the and towed the Sea Doo behind it turbo'ed up and down the East Coast to go to GM type events like Tuner Bash in Daytona Beach. The car wasn't meant to be a show car, or even entered a show. It was built to beat the **** out of and drive. That is why Fox designs car, is to drive just like you.
Last year he sold the car to a kid in SC who was in the Airforce and I think he ended up selling it and buying a new Mustang or some ****.
Bottom line, he isn't blowing smoke, not his style. He heard people where saying it couldn't be done and was a worry to other. If he can go 20,000 miles with with the factory ECU, then if you have that year or close you should be able to. Also, there where no check engine lights in the car which is good. It passed emissions in PA which is good!
03-14-2008, 08:06 PM
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I have to admit, that is one good looking Ion.
Interesting.
Here are the facts boy and girls. Twistec Performance in Ohio did the turbo kit in 2004 and Jeff who owned the company at the time engineered it. Brian took his car to him and with the 04 computer at the time it just didn't need it he told him.
Here is the reason why you don't need it. When Jeff from Twistec put it on the dyno he checked the air/fuel number and they read 14.2 at full boost which is not lean or rich on the dyno. That is how you can tell whether at car needs tuning or not by your air/fuel reading. If you have good air/fuel number you are good to go because the car will not lean out and blow up. In this case, the car was good to go and Brian got the car back.
Now, in 2004 Brian beat the living **** out of the and towed the Sea Doo behind it turbo'ed up and down the East Coast to go to GM type events like Tuner Bash in Daytona Beach. The car wasn't meant to be a show car, or even entered a show. It was built to beat the **** out of and drive. That is why Fox designs car, is to drive just like you.
Last year he sold the car to a kid in SC who was in the Airforce and I think he ended up selling it and buying a new Mustang or some ****.
Bottom line, he isn't blowing smoke, not his style. He heard people where saying it couldn't be done and was a worry to other. If he can go 20,000 miles with with the factory ECU, then if you have that year or close you should be able to. Also, there where no check engine lights in the car which is good. It passed emissions in PA which is good!
Here is the reason why you don't need it. When Jeff from Twistec put it on the dyno he checked the air/fuel number and they read 14.2 at full boost which is not lean or rich on the dyno. That is how you can tell whether at car needs tuning or not by your air/fuel reading. If you have good air/fuel number you are good to go because the car will not lean out and blow up. In this case, the car was good to go and Brian got the car back.
Now, in 2004 Brian beat the living **** out of the and towed the Sea Doo behind it turbo'ed up and down the East Coast to go to GM type events like Tuner Bash in Daytona Beach. The car wasn't meant to be a show car, or even entered a show. It was built to beat the **** out of and drive. That is why Fox designs car, is to drive just like you.
Last year he sold the car to a kid in SC who was in the Airforce and I think he ended up selling it and buying a new Mustang or some ****.
Bottom line, he isn't blowing smoke, not his style. He heard people where saying it couldn't be done and was a worry to other. If he can go 20,000 miles with with the factory ECU, then if you have that year or close you should be able to. Also, there where no check engine lights in the car which is good. It passed emissions in PA which is good!
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Here are the facts boy and girls. Twistec Performance in Ohio did the turbo kit in 2004 and Jeff who owned the company at the time engineered it. Brian took his car to him and with the 04 computer at the time it just didn't need it he told him.
Here is the reason why you don't need it. When Jeff from Twistec put it on the dyno he checked the air/fuel number and they read 14.2 at full boost which is not lean or rich on the dyno. That is how you can tell whether at car needs tuning or not by your air/fuel reading. If you have good air/fuel number you are good to go because the car will not lean out and blow up. In this case, the car was good to go and Brian got the car back.
Now, in 2004 Brian beat the living **** out of the and towed the Sea Doo behind it turbo'ed up and down the East Coast to go to GM type events like Tuner Bash in Daytona Beach. The car wasn't meant to be a show car, or even entered a show. It was built to beat the **** out of and drive. That is why Fox designs car, is to drive just like you.
Last year he sold the car to a kid in SC who was in the Airforce and I think he ended up selling it and buying a new Mustang or some ****.
Bottom line, he isn't blowing smoke, not his style. He heard people where saying it couldn't be done and was a worry to other. If he can go 20,000 miles with with the factory ECU, then if you have that year or close you should be able to. Also, there where no check engine lights in the car which is good. It passed emissions in PA which is good!
Here is the reason why you don't need it. When Jeff from Twistec put it on the dyno he checked the air/fuel number and they read 14.2 at full boost which is not lean or rich on the dyno. That is how you can tell whether at car needs tuning or not by your air/fuel reading. If you have good air/fuel number you are good to go because the car will not lean out and blow up. In this case, the car was good to go and Brian got the car back.
Now, in 2004 Brian beat the living **** out of the and towed the Sea Doo behind it turbo'ed up and down the East Coast to go to GM type events like Tuner Bash in Daytona Beach. The car wasn't meant to be a show car, or even entered a show. It was built to beat the **** out of and drive. That is why Fox designs car, is to drive just like you.
Last year he sold the car to a kid in SC who was in the Airforce and I think he ended up selling it and buying a new Mustang or some ****.
Bottom line, he isn't blowing smoke, not his style. He heard people where saying it couldn't be done and was a worry to other. If he can go 20,000 miles with with the factory ECU, then if you have that year or close you should be able to. Also, there where no check engine lights in the car which is good. It passed emissions in PA which is good!
perfect example of what Ionninja and a few other are stressing NOT TO TAKE FROM THIS THREAD!!!
Be carefull what you say on a car forum buddy. Some newb might see your post, run with it and blow their cars up.
Get real facts before you guys start giving everyone false hope
And dont believe everything you hear on the internetz. This guys homepage is designed to get your business...not the other way around....
