2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 06-27-2008, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by b_faulk75
Dammit, why do the 2.2s have to be so hard to tune, i am curious to see what happened. Sorry to hear you are having problems.

I emailed trifecta(clear image) a few days ago about tuning a custom turbo'd 2.2l and they have not responded. I wanted to know if they thought they could do it...
they can do it...but my car just had a hickup.....u might want to wait...till they have a firm grip on tuning the f/i 2.2s
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
i built my own harness

fly bys are being post poned until further notice...im fixing some tuning problems....everytime i hit 6k rpm....i lean out to 13.3 and it keeps leaning out after that....at about 5.8k rpm... i see 12.8 and vince and i are trying to fix this problem right now....

so yea....im sad...and angry...my car just went boom...holds no power it fucken sucks....big *****....more down time for me....no worries...ill get her up and running real soon.....reenlistment bonus coming up
damn that ******* blows, time for a motor build, you have a supporting vendor right here in glendale that can get you parts pretty quick for the 2.2-karo. just gotta find a good machine shop, whitfield racing could probably machine prep and assemble it for you.
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
damn that ******* blows, time for a motor build, you have a supporting vendor right here in glendale that can get you parts pretty quick for the 2.2-karo. just gotta find a good machine shop, whitfield racing could probably machine prep and assemble it for you.
i know...i was looking at his website last nite....i added up mostly everything..... and it would come out to 2500....which isnt too bad....so all motor build, aluminum manifold...and turbo...yea i think i can push about 20lbs of boost if not more....lol
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
i know...i was looking at his website last nite....i added up mostly everything..... and it would come out to 2500....which isnt too bad....so all motor build, aluminum manifold...and turbo...yea i think i can push about 20lbs of boost if not more....lol
2500 in parts and prolly another 1k for machine work and assembly.
Old 06-28-2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
2500 in parts and prolly another 1k for machine work and assembly.
im not to worried about the assembly part....machine work....what kind of machine work are you talking about?
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
im not to worried about the assembly part....machine work....what kind of machine work are you talking about?
honing the cylinders, decking the block, 5 anle valve job, porting the exhaust ports. the usuall stuff when building a motor...........
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
honing the cylinders, decking the block, 5 anle valve job, porting the exhaust ports. the usuall stuff when building a motor...........
hmm interesting... i guess i havent really thought this out yet.....but no biggy it will get done....ill make a note of this
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
hmm interesting... i guess i havent really thought this out yet.....but no biggy it will get done....ill make a note of this
start planning, it's a long process if you don't, be very thorough.
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
start planning, it's a long process if you don't, be very thorough.
well so far im thinking valve spring, valves, turbo cams, head gasket, forged rods, forged pistons, adj cam gears......everything u mentioned above....anything else i can add to my list?
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
well so far im thinking valve spring, valves, turbo cams, head gasket, forged rods, forged pistons, adj cam gears......everything u mentioned above....anything else i can add to my list?
yah, headstuds, mainstuds, just about every bolt on the damn thing is one time use only, complete gasket set, arp headstuds, cometic head gasket. might as well cryo treat it for another $450 while your at it, the cryo shop is in palmdale. cam sensor seals, oil cooler seals, there's a bunch of **** yah gotta get to rebuild these motors. allot for about 2K more than you plan money wise cause the build will run over your initial estimates, i'll guarantee that, and will take longer than you think as well.
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
yah, headstuds, mainstuds, just about every bolt on the damn thing is one time use only, complete gasket set, arp headstuds, cometic head gasket. might as well cryo treat it for another $450 while your at it, the cryo shop is in palmdale. cam sensor seals, oil cooler seals, there's a bunch of **** yah gotta get to rebuild these motors. allot for about 2K more than you plan money wise cause the build will run over your initial estimates, i'll guarantee that, and will take longer than you think as well.
hmm so pretty much im looking to spend around 3500~5000 parts and labor
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
hmm so pretty much im looking to spend around 3500~5000 parts and labor
if you want it done right, you could always go the cheap route...............if you wanna knock off some of those costs you can limit things like cams and port jobs, those are non mission essentials so to speak.
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
if you want it done right, you could always go the cheap route...............if you wanna knock off some of those costs you can limit things like cams and port jobs, those are non mission essentials so to speak.
right i figuered that.....but might as well...that re enlistment bonus is about to drop into my bank account real soon....so no worries....out of those 40k i can spend 5k of those with no worries...lol
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
right i figuered that.....but might as well...that re enlistment bonus is about to drop into my bank account real soon....so no worries....out of those 40k i can spend 5k of those with no worries...lol
you can share too................i only need like 1250 for some recaros and a hood
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Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
you can share too................i only need like 1250 for some recaros and a hood
luls share here too i only need like 1k to get the rest of my boost parts lol and gauges and stuff lol
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what do i get out of it if i share with you guys?...
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
what do i get out of it if i share with you guys?...
i haz these cheezburgerz........................
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
what do i get out of it if i share with you guys?...
a cookie and mehbeh some other things maybe a sticker saying you sponsored me
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both of you are hilarious.....but i do like the idea of that sticker....lol...but no

Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
you can share too................i only need like 1250 for some recaros and a hood
ive been wanting some recaros too....or something like them.....ill probably get some of those too

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I don't want to read 17pgs worth. Did you dyno?
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no, he didnt
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i was about to dyno and then it broke
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
i was about to dyno and then it broke
What broke?

And I'm not surprised by the way you were driving it in the vids...no offence man but you were beating on the car hard.
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well the tune was fine....till i got to about 6k rpm it started to lean out....so me and vince went to change the tune....and with the new file that he sent me i went for a cruise to try it out.....and we wanted to accomplish a complete WOT at the redline of 7200....but for some reason it choked up.....and it leaned out real bad....so now she just sits in my parking spot.....im not too worried about it.....well im not worried about it all....im not even sad or mad....im actually kinda glad now.....i was waiting for it to break so that i could have a reason to break into the dam engine.....but no i wasnt beating on it.....not until the day it broke....but im not really sure what broke yet.....im thinking its the valvetrain.....but i dont know since i havent opened her up yet....but i can tell you that it doesnt hold any kind of compression at idle
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what kind of afr's were you seeing up top when it **** the bed? when we were initially tuning my 2.4, we had some lean spikes because it wouldn't go into PE. I personally saw my car hit 16.4 afr for a maximum of .5 seconds 3-4 consecutive hits. Still going strong though...how long did you hold in the throttle when you busted it?


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