2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 12-28-2008, 02:33 AM
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how is my head doing?
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Originally Posted by bridfi
how is my head doing?
i cant say ill let u know when it starts.....give me about a month till i figuere out whats going on
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how is my head doing?
Ah, so you bought that guy's TC. How you liking it?
Old 01-08-2009, 10:58 PM
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Ah, so you bought that guy's TC. How you liking it?
F*cking loving it lol
Old 02-18-2009, 11:46 PM
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well heres an update...i finally got my tools back today and i can finally finish what i started not only that...i separated from the marines last month and today i found a new job....stuff is finally coming together....so ill be working on my car these next couple of days...but for sure ill have it running before or on saturday
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
well heres an update...i finally got my tools back today and i can finally finish what i started not only that...i separated from the marines last month and today i found a new job....stuff is finally coming together....so ill be working on my car these next couple of days...but for sure ill have it running before or on saturday
haha, nice! ...running, not driving though.
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haha, nice! ...running, not driving though.
mayb driving depends on how it idles with the new head and pistons
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put a ic on it yet?
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put a ic on it yet?
not yet...but i do have it taking up space in my closet...lol
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hahhahaah not where it belongs, should be taking up space in front of your car hahaha
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hahhahaah not where it belongs, should be taking up space in front of your car hahaha
i know im not too worried about it yet...but ill get to it eventually...my first concern is getting this car running ...then worry about keeping the air temp down
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awwwww......... im seriously confused now as to why this car does not start....it so weird....the timing is perfect...the fuel is spraying like no other...and the spark plugs are firing....dam ***** even shocked me...kinda felt good...lol...

p.s..... never buy ebay spark plugs...they were damaged and never sparked so i went i bought new ones

is there a possibility that the spark plugs are firing at the wrong time?....like mayb they are firing when the valves are open and not when they are closed due to computer error?
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
awwwww......... im seriously confused now as to why this car does not start....it so weird....the timing is perfect...the fuel is spraying like no other...and the spark plugs are firing....dam ***** even shocked me...kinda felt good...lol...

p.s..... never buy ebay spark plugs...they were damaged and never sparked so i went i bought new ones

is there a possibility that the spark plugs are firing at the wrong time?....like mayb they are firing when the valves are open and not when they are closed due to computer error?
Is it even cranking? Like, does it just run really rough, or won't even start? Any other symptoms we can be thinking about?
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yes its cranking...but it wont even start...it will combust at odd times like the timing is off...which i know that the timing chain is perfect....which leads me to believe that the ecu is throwing out the wrong signal at the wrong time which is causing it not to fire correctly....is this even possible?
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
yes its cranking...but it wont even start...it will combust at odd times like the timing is off...which i know that the timing chain is perfect....which leads me to believe that the ecu is throwing out the wrong signal at the wrong time which is causing it not to fire correctly....is this even possible?
Sounds like something really easy a mechanic could do. I would still blame the timing, that's got timing written all over it. Your call though, could be something you're not thinking of. Think you might have any kind of vacuum leak?
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might be a bad coilpack..

check fuses...

and check electrical connections...(to the coilpack, TB, etc...)
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
yes its cranking...but it wont even start...it will combust at odd times like the timing is off...which i know that the timing chain is perfect....which leads me to believe that the ecu is throwing out the wrong signal at the wrong time which is causing it not to fire correctly....is this even possible?
i'm thinking maybe your ignition timing is off/ maybe spark timing .. try reloading the tune or getting in touch with vince to see if he can do something for you
also stupid question but are you sure you're maf isn't damaged or only partially plugged in
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Originally Posted by Sentry
Sounds like something really easy a mechanic could do. I would still blame the timing, that's got timing written all over it. Your call though, could be something you're not thinking of. Think you might have any kind of vacuum leak?
no vac leak

Originally Posted by lil_kano
might be a bad coilpack..

check fuses...

and check electrical connections...(to the coilpack, TB, etc...)
coil pack is good i checked and i swapped with another one

fuses are good

connections are good

Originally Posted by elecblue06
i'm thinking maybe your ignition timing is off/ maybe spark timing .. try reloading the tune or getting in touch with vince to see if he can do something for you
also stupid question but are you sure you're maf isn't damaged or only partially plugged in
the chain timing is on spot....but im also thinking that the spark timing is off.....that the ecu is making it fire at the wrong time

maf is hooked up and not damaged

ill have to call vince and see...but that means i need to re order the tuner

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i think its 50 bucks for a small change in tune...
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Originally Posted by Jn2
i think its 50 bucks for a small change in tune...
well the tune im running is good tune up to 5.8krpm...i dont think its the tune that doesnt let it start...but im going to get in touch with vince as see what we can do

but not yet cuz i dont have much money to my name right now...im still waiting for 6k from the marine corps that i should see in about 10 days and i start working next week

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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
well the tune im running is good tune up to 5.8krpm...i dont think its the tune that doesnt let it start...but im going to get in touch with vince as see what we can do

but not yet cuz i dont have much money to my name right now...im still waiting for 6k from the marine corps that i should see in about 10 days and i start working next week
for some reason i don't think its the ecm.

have you checked to make sure that the coil pack is firing when conected on the car?

same for injectors?
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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
no vac leak



coil pack is good i checked and i swapped with another one

fuses are good

connections are good



the chain timing is on spot....but im also thinking that the spark timing is off.....that the ecu is making it fire at the wrong time

maf is hooked up and not damaged

ill have to call vince and see...but that means i need to re order the tuner
he might work with you on that ,.. yea i dunno why i said ignition timing.. oh wait .. cuz i haven't slept and i'm not thinking .lol

either that or injector pulse with .. but if you'd ruled out all the mechanical possibilities that sounds like its a tune thing .. i'm sure he'll work with you you didn'thave a built engine before ... 8.9:1 CR probably doesn't like your previous tune
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Originally Posted by lil_kano
for some reason i don't think its the ecm.

have you checked to make sure that the coil pack is firing when conected on the car?

same for injectors?
yes the coil pack is firing...as well as the new spark plugs....shocked the **** out of me while i was testing this.....i missed that feeling...lol

and injectors are firing everytime...i pulled the rail and injectors out to see if it was spraying and yes they are

Originally Posted by elecblue06
he might work with you on that ,.. yea i dunno why i said ignition timing.. oh wait .. cuz i haven't slept and i'm not thinking .lol

either that or injector pulse with .. but if you'd ruled out all the mechanical possibilities that sounds like its a tune thing .. i'm sure he'll work with you you didn'thave a built engine before ... 8.9:1 CR probably doesn't like your previous tune
yea ive considered the 8.9:1 CR as well...but i talked to vince and he said it should start....either way im ordering a tuner in about a week or two depending on cash

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Originally Posted by mrsilent13
yes the coil pack is firing...as well as the new spark plugs....shocked the **** out of me while i was testing this.....i missed that feeling...lol

and injectors are firing everytime...i pulled the rail and injectors out to see if it was spraying and yes they are



yea ive considered the 8.9:1 CR as well...but i talked to vince and he said it should start....either way im ordering a tuner in about a week or two depending on cash
dude, just talk to psykostevo(pm or call him) and see if b4 or after the meet on Sunday he can come and tune your car for you, or maybe if he comes out here tomorrow(i don't know if he will) he could do it then or maybe even Monday


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