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Old 03-09-2009, 04:59 PM
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last i heard i thought they didn't make cams for the 2007 and up models.
correct me if i'm wrong please.
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I dunno, I just pay attention to what they make for my 05........
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haha fair enough.
yea but can someone answer my question about the 210 or 190 horsepower on my buddys mustang
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Originally Posted by the senile J
haha fair enough.
yea but can someone answer my question about the 210 or 190 horsepower on my buddys mustang
the '05+ 4.0l V6 mustang makes 210hp The '99-'04 V6 mustang is a 3.8l, and probably makes the 190hp that you're seeing online

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So you guys dont think the L61, LE5, and LAP can make 200 with cams, valves, ect? I thought maybe after 7k dropped into one that you might get 200 on an N/A.
cams/valves would be internal mods. Theyre not bolt ons...
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I have a friend in my area that made over 200 with a built engine. I know it's possible with a 2.4
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I have a friend in my area that made over 200 with a built engine. I know it's possible with a 2.4
again. im not doubting its possible for either to do so with a built engine...i am saying it is impossible with mere bolt-ons.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
cams/valves would be internal mods. Theyre not bolt ons...
This I know, just curious what kind of power would be possible with internals
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wait i thought we can use cams on the 07 and up, just have to remove the sensor on the old one to the new one, or am i wrong?
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wait i thought we can use cams on the 07 and up, just have to remove the sensor on the old one to the new one, or am i wrong?
That is correct, but do you know how much that costs? Not ideal.
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lol if you couldve guessed by now iam not the most mechanically incline Iam that guy that buys the part then has his uncle or mechanic do it (...how long of a job does that inquire though.Assuming the cams are 450 give or take how many hours of labor do you think it would take
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your friends mustang isnt the new style out correct? the 99-04 style? Make sure he hasnt mixed up the years because yes his is only 190 if its an 04, if its an 05+ then its 210
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
lol if you couldve guessed by now iam not the most mechanically incline Iam that guy that buys the part then has his uncle or mechanic do it (...how long of a job does that inquire though.Assuming the cams are 450 give or take how many hours of labor do you think it would take
Well, for one you have to send your cams, stock and aftermarket, to a machine shop. Bates engineering is the only one I've heard that has successfully done it. And, with them being pros I doubt it would be cheap. Someone on here did it once, I think silent used to have them. Might wanna ask him who he got his from.
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alright well it will be awhile till i get there anyway still knockin away at bolt ons, ive been pmin copson about it cause his is an 07, his is also manuel...but thanks Ill do more research along the way...
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Originally Posted by DarkCobalt13
This I know, just curious what kind of power would be possible with internals
a fully built NA LE5 i can see making mid to high 200's for whp. Mind you, this would not be an ideal daily driver, and would take a LOT of money to get there
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
your friends mustang isnt the new style out correct? the 99-04 style? Make sure he hasnt mixed up the years because yes his is only 190 if its an 04, if its an 05+ then its 210
his is an 04. it's not the new style mustangs. its a 40th anniversary edition which mould mean 2004. and i'm pretty sure the 40th anniversary package doesn't add 20 horespower it's only appearance stuff.
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Bolt-ons won't get you there. My friend Justin spent over 5k for the block, head and cams. I just gave him my m62 so he could boost it. He's looking to see how far he can push things, but it helps to be a gm tech, I guess.
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stage 2 comp cams. You will get there easily
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Originally Posted by massivematt
stage 2 comp cams. You will get there easily
So youve got 200+whp??????
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Originally Posted by massivematt
stage 2 comp cams. You will get there easily
no....no you wont
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Those old Mustang's are a joke like everyone has said. I used to race my '89 Prelude Si against lots of older V6 Mustangs and Camaros, and I only lost to one of my friends with modified '01 Camaro which I wasn't expecting. But I go back to these guys now with my stock '08 Cobalt thats auto, and I'm still able take them on, the cars light weight helps so much. I've never raced a GT though, don't want to get my pride hurt too bad. They're still all show and no go, the '10 Mustang GT has a tube that funnels engine noise into the cabin so you think you've got way more car than you do.
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drive it on venus... the atmospheric pressure is ninety times greater then that on earth






ok , real answer ..its probaly not worth it. high compression maybe in the 11.5:range. and the abialty to rev high, 8-9krpm. and its gonna have to be able to breath well.
so built block, built head,ported or new intake mainy, and then your slew of normal bolt ons, and great tuning. your looking at 2-3k in head work alone, or you just spend that money on a modest turbo set up.
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All you have to do is throw an SS turbocharged emblem on your car...hopefully you intimidate him enough where he doesnt want to race..and if he does.....
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Originally Posted by massivematt
stage 2 comp cams. You will get there easily
LOL, hahahaahaahahaha, pause, breathe, HAHAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAAH 200 easily? Go dyno your car with everything you have done and Im going to guess 165hp, maybe 175.
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
LOL, hahahaahaahahaha, pause, breathe, HAHAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAAH 200 easily? Go dyno your car with everything you have done and Im going to guess 165hp, maybe 175.
i will on tuesday lol: stg2 comp cams, 2.4 intake mani, 2.4 tb, lsj injectors, cai, 4-2-1 header, clear image catless dp, 3" clear image catback, lightweight crank pulley, lightweight alternator pulley, and getting dyno tuned by vince...so this argument can be solved then lol
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If he has The standard 3.8 L V6, then its 190hp. ('04)
The new (05+) 4.0L V6 have 210hp.


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