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Old 03-12-2009, 04:16 PM
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the 9 second cobalt is 2.2 950 hp
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And then the upgraded suspension, clutch, fuel system, and above all you can swap a magical transmission. That all alone will cost atleast $7,000.
Listen we all want to have that "under dog" car of today. We all want to be the fastest on the road, but the simple fact of the matter is you can buy a crotch rocket for that price and you will not be sacrificing much. Sacrificing things such as piece of mind and engine is out of timing is simply not just worth it in this time and age. Save for college.

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Originally Posted by cobaltss86
the 9 second cobalt is 2.2 950 hp
950hp! damn.. where did you see this at, i'd like to see it.

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And then the upgraded suspension, clutch, fuel system, and above all you can swap a magical transmission. That all alone will cost atleast $7,000.
Listen we all want to have that "under dog" car of today. We all want to be the fastest on the road, but the simple fact of the matter is you can buy a crotch rocket for that price and you will not be sacrificing much. Sacrificing things such as piece of mind and engine is out of timing is simply not just worth it in this time and age. Save for college.

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oh and mommy and daddy are paying for college. im paying for medical school, but thats a little down the road when i get a real job after college. so i have money to play with right now.

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Old 03-12-2009, 04:43 PM
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twincharging is overrated, you dont want to run 2 things constantly like that...it would just shortin the lifespan of ur motor greatly...you should just do the full built motor and tranny with gearing, do the turbo set up and run a direct port n02 shot....alot of supras and other big turbo cars use a 2-step exhaust set up with a shot of n02 right off the line to eliminate literally any turbo lag...but i think it is possible
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I hope you realize that it's going to take a lot more than just pistons, rods, and sleeves. First of all, if you have a manual transmission, it's going to take a **** at 300-350 hp. An automatic transmission, which is your best bet, it going to take a **** at 400 hp unless it's rebuilt and stalled. You're going to need the valvetrain fully replaced and head port/polished. Fuel pump is definitely going to have to be replaced, and I have no clue what you'll use for injectors, as they'll have to be absolute monsters.

Not to mention, you'll need a fully forged crank, stock crank is not going to take any abuse over 500 hp.

And what's this about twincharged? Just get a large turbo, a gt35r might get you there, but it would be a long shot. Expect to spend ~10,000 for parts, rebuild, and custom fabrication required. Not trying to pop your balloon or anything, I'm just letting you know what you're going to get into, before you start sinking too much money into it. Now if you're rich and have 10k to blow, go ahead and surprise us. But, there's a shop that advertises on here a lot, and they have yet to exceed 500 hp on a twincharged setup.

Having said all that. Good luck!
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it was on a magazine ad from mobil 1 you might be able to find it on youtube
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ok FIRST off
have fun with the whole fitting a big turbo in the back on the engine bay

it was a BITCH fitting my T25 back there!

honestly anything is possible with a big wallet

if you wanna start ordering **** dude..your car
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Whitfield racing has done 9's or so in a Cobalt .....2.2l if I'm not mistaken. I'm not going to tell you you can't do it check them out, since they are a shop and HAVE done it, they can tell you exactly how to do it. I will however tell you everybody on this site, including me, probably started out tuning by asking similar questions to what you are asking.

I will also say it was a Bi*** and a half getting my Camaro LT1 with 350ci to 515hp, and that didn't last long.

It takes alot... money ....time.... reseach.... patience... and thick skin.

Hey good luck! And if you do start, We need more How to's.
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I'm not sure you fully understand about spending almost 8grand (thats not even gonna get you to that 600hp level) on a car that after 3-4 years it was bought is gonna barly even be worth that.
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I hope you realize that it's going to take a lot more than just pistons, rods, and sleeves. First of all, if you have a manual transmission, it's going to take a **** at 300-350 hp. An automatic transmission, which is your best bet, it going to take a **** at 400 hp unless it's rebuilt and stalled. You're going to need the valvetrain fully replaced and head port/polished. Fuel pump is definitely going to have to be replaced, and I have no clue what you'll use for injectors, as they'll have to be absolute monsters.

Not to mention, you'll need a fully forged crank, stock crank is not going to take any abuse over 500 hp.

And what's this about twincharged? Just get a large turbo, a gt35r might get you there, but it would be a long shot. Expect to spend ~10,000 for parts, rebuild, and custom fabrication required. Not trying to pop your balloon or anything, I'm just letting you know what you're going to get into, before you start sinking too much money into it. Now if you're rich and have 10k to blow, go ahead and surprise us. But, there's a shop that advertises on here a lot, and they have yet to exceed 500 hp on a twincharged setup.

Having said all that. Good luck!
Hahn's f23 is doing just fine. There are a few 400+ hp cavaliers doing just fine.
K, my input is done for now.
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twin charging is pointless, you can do that on a turbo alone...fully build engine can do more than 600hp, but atleast you know ur built to hold 1000+ and only making 600 u wont break anything
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Originally Posted by Jn2
twin charging is pointless, you can do that on a turbo alone...fully build engine can do more than 600hp, but atleast you know ur built to hold 1000+ and only making 600 u wont break anything
Think he understands that after your first post.
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You will never get that 600hp to the road. You will just always be spinning. Its fun, but youll never need it. You will never be able to put your pedal to the floor unless your in 5th gear going 40mph. Either do a RWD conversion (not gonna happen) or settle on a more practical HP that is cheaper, just as fun, but cant walk on vetts. even with 600whp theyll beat you from a dig cause youll be spinning through 1st and 2nd while there in 4th giving you the thumbs down
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good luck man!
but say you are able to get 600whp, the only corvettes you will be able to hold are probably the stock ones. you have the old men that buy vettes just bc its a vette and they will keep it stock and wont race it or the young men that have vettes. but chances are if theyre young and able to even afford a vette, they will invest money in it. and a modded vette will beat a modded 2.2

but good luck anyways man. you have more patience then me, i just sold my 2.2 for a 2.0.

Prove us wrong.
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is there any awd set ups from sabb that match up with our frame?
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Originally Posted by widowedeight

i'm sure a lnf could reach that easier than a 2.2.....
definitely not. LNFs dont have a fueling solution over 4X0HP, and L61's are at 1,400hp
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I say twin charge it with a small supercharger and then put the biggest turbo you can find. That way that supercharger will help that turbo spool and when it does HOLY ****. If you just put a giant turbo in it would never spool up. Youd be at like 4grand by the time that bitch gets some pressure.
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Originally Posted by Gestapo007
I say twin charge it with a small supercharger and then put the biggest turbo you can find. That way that supercharger will help that turbo spool and when it does HOLY ****. If you just put a giant turbo in it would never spool up. Youd be at like 4grand by the time that bitch gets some pressure.
waste of money bro...he could get a n02 set up and it would be way cheaper and spool the turbo off the launch with a 2-step system...read my post from earlier in the thread
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
Hahn's f23 is doing just fine. There are a few 400+ hp cavaliers doing just fine.
K, my input is done for now.

Hahn has a 2.2L project car over 400hp? Anyone got a link?

If not, then I think you mean the F35 transmission, which is rated considerably higher and is for the SS.
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trust me you going to need almost doubble your budget to make 600+whp.. with this you will be making about 4-450 if you turbo head cam intake ect ect.
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Originally Posted by Sentry
Hahn has a 2.2L project car over 400hp? Anyone got a link?

If not, then I think you mean the F35 transmission, which is rated considerably higher and is for the SS.
im sorry, i meant SMG. They have the 400hp+ L61

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waste of money bro...he could get a n02 set up and it would be way cheaper and spool the turbo off the launch with a 2-step system...read my post from earlier in the thread
uniqueness + not needing N2O (its not no2) > spool up shot
however..it does have the disadvantage of being a bit pricier. It wouldnt be that hard though. ZZP twincharge kit only use a larger turbo.

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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
im sorry, i meant SMG. They have the 400hp+ L61



uniqueness + not needing N2O (its not no2) > spool up shot
however..it does have the disadvantage of being a bit pricier. It wouldnt be that hard though. ZZP twincharge kit only use a larger turbo.
sorry dyslexic lol...i just dont agree with the whole twincharging thing tho...i mean if it was that effective then why are the high performance cars like ferrari, lambo, koiensegg, and buggati, etc all doing it?
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Originally Posted by VictoryRed06
sorry dyslexic lol...i just dont agree with the whole twincharging thing tho...i mean if it was that effective then why are the high performance cars like ferrari, lambo, koiensegg, and buggati, etc all doing it?
Good point, they don't.

They all use V10 or V12's that are twin turbo, much better performance but also MUCH more expensive.

But, it makes no sense to twin turbo a 4 cylinder, leave that to the V motors that can put out the proper amount of exhaust.
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Originally Posted by VictoryRed06
waste of money bro...he could get a n02 set up and it would be way cheaper and spool the turbo off the launch with a 2-step system...read my post from earlier in the thread
the 2-step is essentially the same as launch control, where it holds your RPMS at whatever you set it at letting your turbo spool b4 you drop the clutch. That would be a great idea. just be careful with the NOS and get it done right.
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Originally Posted by Sentry
Good point, they don't.

They all use V10 or V12's that are twin turbo, much better performance but also MUCH more expensive.

But, it makes no sense to twin turbo a 4 cylinder, leave that to the V motors that can put out the proper amount of exhaust.
Huh? Ferrari's and Lambo's use naturally aspirated engines.


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