Best headers for 2.2?
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Best headers for 2.2?
I was wonderin if u balt nuts can direct me towards the best header out rite now for the 2.2...money aint a problem...any input is appreciated
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Check out this thread:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...fficial+header
*edit* I have the first new Clear Image header installed on mine. Its a 4-2-1 design and is availabe with high flow cat down pipe and ceramic coating. It is very nice and gains are noticable.
Call Dan for details, he has a SS/SC in his shop right now test fitting. Should be available very soon.
http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...obalt%20SS.htm
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...fficial+header
*edit* I have the first new Clear Image header installed on mine. Its a 4-2-1 design and is availabe with high flow cat down pipe and ceramic coating. It is very nice and gains are noticable.
Call Dan for details, he has a SS/SC in his shop right now test fitting. Should be available very soon.
http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...obalt%20SS.htm
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Again this is INCORRECT the reason why the GM extruded manifold fits is because it only replaces down to the collector, where as the pacesetter header replaces further down the exhaust; The pacesetter header replaces just up to the OEM cat converter.
This is why the GMPP will work and all other headers WILL NOT fit.
The Pacesetter header WILL bolt up to all 3 enignes, HOWEVER from what pacesetter stated the down pipe will not work with all 3. That is why Pacesetter is making a header specific for the 2.4L so the downpipe will work; As the downpipe for the 2.0 and 2.2 is different from the downpipe for the 2.4L
Unless Pacesetter has stated different, this is the most recent info.
This is why the GMPP will work and all other headers WILL NOT fit.
The Pacesetter header WILL bolt up to all 3 enignes, HOWEVER from what pacesetter stated the down pipe will not work with all 3. That is why Pacesetter is making a header specific for the 2.4L so the downpipe will work; As the downpipe for the 2.0 and 2.2 is different from the downpipe for the 2.4L
Unless Pacesetter has stated different, this is the most recent info.
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Again this is INCORRECT the reason why the GM extruded manifold fits is because it only replaces down to the collector, where as the pacesetter header replaces further down the exhaust; The pacesetter header replaces just up to the OEM cat converter.
This is why the GMPP will work and all other headers WILL NOT fit.
The Pacesetter header WILL bolt up to all 3 enignes, HOWEVER from what pacesetter stated the down pipe will not work with all 3. That is why Pacesetter is making a header specific for the 2.4L so the downpipe will work; As the downpipe for the 2.0 and 2.2 is different from the downpipe for the 2.4L
Unless Pacesetter has stated different, this is the most recent info.
This is why the GMPP will work and all other headers WILL NOT fit.
The Pacesetter header WILL bolt up to all 3 enignes, HOWEVER from what pacesetter stated the down pipe will not work with all 3. That is why Pacesetter is making a header specific for the 2.4L so the downpipe will work; As the downpipe for the 2.0 and 2.2 is different from the downpipe for the 2.4L
Unless Pacesetter has stated different, this is the most recent info.
Last edited by RuSSo-29; 03-15-2007 at 03:19 PM. Reason: spelling
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The header will fit. All three cylinder heads use the same exhaust flange. It may be neccesary to modify the down pipe depending on which car you have.
Just because something isnt a direct bolt, does not mean it doesnt fit.
Oh, and as for the Pacesetter. I recommend avoiding them like the plague. I have never met a person that has had a good experience with a pacesetter. The Pacesetter I used on my NA Talon lasted 5 months (with a flex pipe added in, that pacesetter doesnt include) before it cracked in numerous places. Most guys driving DSM's get less the that if they dont add a flex pipe. 300ZX owners bitch about pacesetter because the ports dont line up with the ports on the head, and the longevity of the pacesetter on the Z's is about as shitty as the DSM's.
Just because something isnt a direct bolt, does not mean it doesnt fit.
Oh, and as for the Pacesetter. I recommend avoiding them like the plague. I have never met a person that has had a good experience with a pacesetter. The Pacesetter I used on my NA Talon lasted 5 months (with a flex pipe added in, that pacesetter doesnt include) before it cracked in numerous places. Most guys driving DSM's get less the that if they dont add a flex pipe. 300ZX owners bitch about pacesetter because the ports dont line up with the ports on the head, and the longevity of the pacesetter on the Z's is about as shitty as the DSM's.
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Even if it were bolt on, all of the exhausts have the same routing so it would still be a direct bolt on.
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I can't believe that some of the vendors on here don't even know their answers before they post.
All headers will bolt to all engines for the Cobalts (2.0 2.2 2.4). A "long tube" header such as Pacesetter's will require a fabbed up DP to bolt up with the rest of the exhaust. REGARDLESS of which engine you put it on. The "shorty" units like the GMPP mani, CA and Vibrant headers all replace JUST the manifold and DO NOT require ANY modification to fit ANY of the engines!
On my 2.2 HHR I have the GMPP Manifold, a stock SS/SC DP with the cat gutted and a full exhaust system.
IF you decide to use something other than the "shorty's" and go with a "long tube" design you will NEED TO FAB A NEW DP NO MATTER THE ENGINE.
Ok, I'm done now. Hope someone read this and learned something from it!
EDIT::: The downpipe on my friend's 2.4 is the exact same as the stock one on the 2.2 HHRs!
All headers will bolt to all engines for the Cobalts (2.0 2.2 2.4). A "long tube" header such as Pacesetter's will require a fabbed up DP to bolt up with the rest of the exhaust. REGARDLESS of which engine you put it on. The "shorty" units like the GMPP mani, CA and Vibrant headers all replace JUST the manifold and DO NOT require ANY modification to fit ANY of the engines!
On my 2.2 HHR I have the GMPP Manifold, a stock SS/SC DP with the cat gutted and a full exhaust system.
IF you decide to use something other than the "shorty's" and go with a "long tube" design you will NEED TO FAB A NEW DP NO MATTER THE ENGINE.
Ok, I'm done now. Hope someone read this and learned something from it!
EDIT::: The downpipe on my friend's 2.4 is the exact same as the stock one on the 2.2 HHRs!
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Nice, Thankx for the info man, and on clearing that up.
Rob (Balt36), you should look to the the GMPP header. your just gunna have to save up a lil longer.
Rob (Balt36), you should look to the the GMPP header. your just gunna have to save up a lil longer.
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The header will fit. All three cylinder heads use the same exhaust flange. It may be neccesary to modify the down pipe depending on which car you have.
Just because something isnt a direct bolt, does not mean it doesnt fit.
Oh, and as for the Pacesetter. I recommend avoiding them like the plague. I have never met a person that has had a good experience with a pacesetter. The Pacesetter I used on my NA Talon lasted 5 months (with a flex pipe added in, that pacesetter doesnt include) before it cracked in numerous places. Most guys driving DSM's get less the that if they dont add a flex pipe. 300ZX owners bitch about pacesetter because the ports dont line up with the ports on the head, and the longevity of the pacesetter on the Z's is about as shitty as the DSM's.
Just because something isnt a direct bolt, does not mean it doesnt fit.
Oh, and as for the Pacesetter. I recommend avoiding them like the plague. I have never met a person that has had a good experience with a pacesetter. The Pacesetter I used on my NA Talon lasted 5 months (with a flex pipe added in, that pacesetter doesnt include) before it cracked in numerous places. Most guys driving DSM's get less the that if they dont add a flex pipe. 300ZX owners bitch about pacesetter because the ports dont line up with the ports on the head, and the longevity of the pacesetter on the Z's is about as shitty as the DSM's.
i've had zero problems with my pacesetter... looks brand new after a good ole north new jersey road salt attack... my "stainless steel" downpipe which has been on 3 times less is rusted... if i told you one of my parts was stainless and one was not, guaranteed you'd pick the pacesetter as the stainless from looks...
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i've had zero problems with my pacesetter... looks brand new after a good ole north new jersey road salt attack... my "stainless steel" downpipe which has been on 3 times less is rusted... if i told you one of my parts was stainless and one was not, guaranteed you'd pick the pacesetter as the stainless from looks...
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Here is reason for the confusion:
First, ANY header will fit ANY of the the Ecotec engines in ANY Cobalt. Gaurenteed.
However, it may not fit the downpipe. That's the difference.
Pacesetter is a long tube header that requires a custom made downpipe. Not a big deal, any exhaust shop should be able to do that for you.
Shorty headers will bolt right up. Hahn and Cobalt addictions have shorties.
First, ANY header will fit ANY of the the Ecotec engines in ANY Cobalt. Gaurenteed.
However, it may not fit the downpipe. That's the difference.
Pacesetter is a long tube header that requires a custom made downpipe. Not a big deal, any exhaust shop should be able to do that for you.
Shorty headers will bolt right up. Hahn and Cobalt addictions have shorties.