StrongIslandBalter

okay so ? is that it says on ttr, stage 1 is 2600-6800, stage 2 is 3000-7500. Is the stage 1 better because its more with in a reasonable span. Or is stage 2 better becasue your not limited on the top end?

drivernoverdrive

just my opinion..but stage 2 seems to be the better deal...when I get my set I will get stg 2 because it has a longer powerband and you don't have to wait long to get into the band..plus you get the crucial extra power in the 7k+ rpms which will be nice when running WOT....I think stage 3 is a bit too long of a wait to get into the powerband and it may not do any good if you have an automatic and have had no tune to boost the redline...again..just my thoughts

NWAE Cobalt

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stg 2 makes it LESS street drivable... ac makes vibes bad and it makes it harder to control at lower speeds....
that being said stg2 will make more power
so it depends on what you want
if it were me, and it were the only car avail to drive....then id go stage 1....if i had another car for when i just need to get somewhere, then i would get stg2

weiss27md

What about if you have an automatic with all bolt ons: CAI, header, cat back exhaust, 2.4 IM.
Because it's an automatic wouldn't only make sense to only get stage 1 because of never going over 6.5K?

NWAE Cobalt

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that can be tuned and changed

StrongIslandBalter

well what hp differnence do you think were looking at and i feel stage one is better becasue I wont be abusing the powerband on stage 2 like if anything I would get rev limiter changed to 6900, maybe 7 and theirs still power after that... also so stage 2 is definatly gonna strain the engine more?

NWAE Cobalt

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its going to cause lots of vibes, and if you USE the power band, then it will put more on the engine yes. I would say you would be looking at maybe a 10whp diff max

StrongIslandBalter

so is their anyother modifications for stage 2 that are mandiatory or is stage 2 and a tune fine so realy how many whp do you think you gain from cams and a tune for stage 1 and stage 2

06_ion2

full boltons and stage 2 cams with a tune should net close to 175whp. no problems.

StrongIslandBalter

so thats like 200 crank lol yo ion i think nawe is dynoin at like 190 something

Perfect.disguise

Didn't he dyno 180whp uncorrected. Corrected would be less.
Get stage 1 with a 7K redline.

06_ion2

yes hes 180 somthin but i think he also has a shaved head?

NWAE Cobalt

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but he also had crap for tune, was talking with him on another board and he was saying it afr was corrected and it should be higher, mid to high 190s

BlackCobalt707

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not to steal the thread but i've been curious about cams, how effective would it be to put cams on my car wit the turbo set up??

NWAE Cobalt

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if you get turbo grind it could be very effective

06_ion2

it would be very efective that is if you bump your rev limiter and have a built/ported head also.

BlackCobalt707

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my redline is at 7k and as far as built...if you wanna call a full ferrea valvetrain as bein built then sure lol

StrongIslandBalter

nighthawk so on the other board hes at high 190 jw what do you think he would be with a stage one high 80?

BlackCobalt707

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strong, hows that turbo coming along??

JapEatr

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The additional flow from the higher lift will not be as dramatic with your setup, UNLESS THE HEAD IS PORTED AS WELL>

if the head is ported and you have the dual valve springs, then yes it will be a huge improvement with the turbo

StrongIslandBalter

not gonna lie iam sooooo freaking confused which way to go. Iam so nervous Iam gonna get a build going then not have the mechanical skills or knowledge to complete it. Ive looked at the SC route and the part list is huge for that...Turbo I feel has to be fabricated unless I buy a kit, and N/A is exspensive but atleast makes sense to me

BlackCobalt707

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i got dual valve springs but the head isnt ported. ill do the next time i take my engine apart

if youre just going turbo on a stock engine you will be fine as long as you dont boost too much. my first time when i turbo'd my integra i was worried too, but the cobalt was much easier seeing as ive done it once before. youll be find man, just ask all the questions you need

NWAE Cobalt

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mid to low 180s

StrongIslandBalter

yeah but like, i dont even know how to find a turbo to fit a turbo manifold. It seems easier then supercharging though. Iam gonna have to get a complete parts list going this way i can start piecing something together.

and that would be like 210 crank? or is that to high

BlackCobalt707

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just find a turbo and manifold wit the same exhaust flanges. like T3 style or T25/28 style. if you got different flanges you can find the adapters on e-bay i believe