2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 08-30-2009, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCobalt707
if i understand correctly as well, using high octane fuel in a regular unmodded car will do nothin right? and i think someone told me it can be harmful to the engine, correct?
the 2.2 was tuned to run regular 87 octane any higher and u lose power after prolonged use the check engine light actually comes on
Old 08-30-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 06Pursuit
the 2.2 was tuned to run regular 87 octane any higher and u lose power after prolonged use the check engine light actually comes on
i'm gonna disagree on this i ran 93 pre-tune when i installed my n2o system. i ran that fuel for a year on and off the bottle and didn't through any cel's associated with fuel. where'd you get that info from?
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im not sure if i read vinces e-mail right but i think he said somethin about the computer automatically tuning itself for the octane cause i remember askin him if he can tune me for 93 and 98 octane gas when i ordered my tune
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yes the car's computer will pull timing for lower octane fuel. so tune for 93 and be done with it.




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Originally Posted by Spanky's Monkey
i'm gonna disagree on this i ran 93 pre-tune when i installed my n2o system. i ran that fuel for a year on and off the bottle and didn't through any cel's associated with fuel. where'd you get that info from?
I used to burn 94 when i used nitrous but when I continued to run the fuel after the track, the car would run like ass and eventualy throw a code. When the tank was empty and I filled with regular the code went away
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Originally Posted by 06Pursuit
its been done, an LS1 swap, not cheap though
actually its a lsx
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Originally Posted by 06_ion2
actually its a lsx
same **** different pile
Old 08-30-2009, 06:15 PM
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so if tuned by trifecta for higher octane will you throw a code?
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Originally Posted by 06Pursuit
same **** different pile
**** that know your **** before saying its a pile. ****** newbs.
Old 08-31-2009, 03:16 PM
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sooo how many hp can you add of the whp to make the crank hp
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
sooo how many hp can you add of the whp to make the crank hp
its about a 12-17% drivetrain loss from crank to WHP so figure it out.
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Soooo whats every1s opinion on JBP valve springs??? im looking into them and dont know if they will handle a higher comp, cammed and nitrous build...
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Originally Posted by 06ion2coup
Soooo whats every1s opinion on JBP valve springs??? im looking into them and dont know if they will handle a higher comp, cammed and nitrous build...
get fierra valves and springs.
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thats like 230 crank... i was looking at the other thred witht he supercharger on a stock 2 pulley guy ran low 14 almost 13;s with just that makes every decision of building that much harder (

okay so what would you estimate a 1/4 mile time with 2.4 intake mani, CAI, Cat back,Header,Downpipe,Pullies,Cams,2.4 TB,Tune and a 50-75 shot. That has to be close to 300hp? maybe 275hp but whats the 1/4 time estimate?

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Old 09-01-2009, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
thats like 230 crank... i was looking at the other thred witht he supercharger on a stock 2 pulley guy ran low 14 almost 13;s with just that makes every decision of building that much harder (

okay so what would you estimate a 1/4 mile time with 2.4 intake mani, CAI, Cat back,Header,Downpipe,Pullies,Cams,2.4 TB,Tune and a 50-75 shot. That has to be close to 300hp? maybe 275hp but whats the 1/4 time estimate?
throw in a PnP'd head and the 75 shot and you might have around 280 not 300

it also depends on your cams, what kinda valve train your get are you planning on raising the redline much? cause you will have to get your crank rebalanced for higher RPM's also you will need a clutch to grip all this power along with good tires to get traction, finally what kinda safety precautions are you planning to run with your nitrous?

and idk a 1/4 time alot of that will depend on the driver at that point but you could easily be in the low 13's and if your good i dont see why high 12;s wouldnt be possible
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Originally Posted by 06ion2coup
Soooo whats every1s opinion on JBP valve springs??? im looking into them and dont know if they will handle a higher comp, cammed and nitrous build...
jbp sucks DICK!!!!

and ya, you could see some low 13s or so witha good driver


and as for octane, it will pull timing for lower, so tune for highest pump gas (92-94 depending) and let that work for you

i ran 92 for 1.5 years before tune and no problems, ran fine, and no cel....
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maybe the extra two points in octane here in canada make the diffrence on the computer.
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it's gm is all i gotta say.
Old 09-01-2009, 11:24 PM
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what do you mean saftey percautions like wot switch,bottle warmer? and really so i can have almost a 300 hp cobalt with out turbo or supercharger ) that makes me happy that a 12 second car is possible! iam gussing i should run 93 octan and occasionally use octane boost?
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self bump )
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fuel pressure switch, rpm window switch, nitrous pressure switch, necessary relays and the appropriate gauges.

keep in mind i didn't buy the fuel and n2o pressure switchs. i did keep a scale in the trunk. window switch is a must for spraying in first.......if you're into that sorta thing.
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is spraying nitrous on an autoa terrible idea? and what type of gains will i see
Old 09-03-2009, 08:13 PM
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not bad at all and it's like nothing else in the world. my only beef is that i had two full tanks and very empty pockets. i was spraying a 75 shot and it was good enough for 14's in a super high 16 second car.
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so auto maybe better, no misshifting, also u say 14's so like in the other thread where i posted lets say even on your car if you had stg 2 cams,2.4tb,2.4im,header,dp,catback,intake,pulley and trifecta tuned with a 75 shot i feel like thats a fast car right there lol capable of low 13's?
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i'd say mid 13's to be realistic. when you increase track times with bolt-on mods you're generally shaving tenths off, not full seconds. with all that and a properly heated full bottle. mid 13's for a base would be well respected.


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