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i was on maximum boosts site and i see that they sell cams for the 2.2. has anyone bought these? if so i'd like to know some information:
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Max Boost, isnt that that Frank McKeever guy that got kicked off of here?
If so, from what I understand you should be wary of giving him your $$$.
If not, then I retract the previous statement.
If so, from what I understand you should be wary of giving him your $$$.
If not, then I retract the previous statement.
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guy's make sure you can tune for them first, I'm not sure about the 2.2L, but the SS/SC's are finiky about everything you add.
I know mine had starting problem at first, untill I got a flash reprogram.
I know mine had starting problem at first, untill I got a flash reprogram.
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Max Boost, isnt that that Frank McKeever guy that got kicked off of here?
If so, from what I understand you should be wary of giving him your $$$.
If not, then I retract the previous statement.
If so, from what I understand you should be wary of giving him your $$$.
If not, then I retract the previous statement.
Max boost is a business just like any other, stop talking out of your ass without knowing what really happened, frank has been running that business for years and the only problem why he is not a seller here anymore is because he had a problem paying for his seller fees.
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Originally Posted by Ljavy17
Max boost is a business just like any other, stop talking out of your ass without knowing what really happened, frank has been running that business for years and the only problem why he is not a seller here anymore is because he had a problem paying for his seller fees.
Did you not READ what I said?
Originally Posted by chipsgt
Max Boost, isnt that that Frank McKeever guy that got kicked off of here?
If so, from what I understand you should be wary of giving him your $$$.
If not, then I retract the previous statement.
If so, from what I understand you should be wary of giving him your $$$.
If not, then I retract the previous statement.
The general concencus seems to be that he is not a good person to deal with.
I am perfectly willing to discuss it, however dont get all butt-hurt the first time you disagree with something. A simple explanation would have sufficed.
I for one just dont want to see anyone get burned. Further more, if it was simply an issue of him not being able to pay the fee, why is it he hasnt been on as a regular member since he lost the ability to be a supporting vendor.
I didnt post what I did as fact, it was from what I have read here on cobaltss.net.
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Originally Posted by player_1
I saw closer to 15-20 HP gain, but that my be because I have the JBP Tri-flow cam, it's more of a blower type cam.
but right now the stg ones say no ecu modding needed but the stg 2's you do and the 2.2 is sol right now
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yah for my stage two, I need to tune so my by pass valve doesn't bleed the extra boost I gained.
but I'm sure with larger injectors, and some adjustments to timing, I could potentially gain 50WHP easy from stock
but I'm sure with larger injectors, and some adjustments to timing, I could potentially gain 50WHP easy from stock
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I was also thinking about getting a set of Set of the Stage 1 cams from TTR since I wil be staying N/A for a while. I was just hoping that someone could explain what all the specs mean so I could understand them better. I know NJHK will have something to say since he knows his stuff.
Here are the specs for the cams:
-Street (Stage 1) Applications power from 2600-6800rpm .423 intake and .419 exhaust valve lift, 252 intake and 256 exhaust duration advertized (210 intake and 212 exhaust @ .050" duration) Works best with computer modifications not required.
Thanks in advance for help.
Here are the specs for the cams:
-Street (Stage 1) Applications power from 2600-6800rpm .423 intake and .419 exhaust valve lift, 252 intake and 256 exhaust duration advertized (210 intake and 212 exhaust @ .050" duration) Works best with computer modifications not required.
Thanks in advance for help.
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I don't know what the numbers specifically mean but pretty much its telling you the power range in which the cams operate (2600-6800rpm), how much lift (to let air into the cylinder) and for how long for both the intake cam and the exhaust cam.
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i dunno about having to tune the cams. it realy depends on how aggressive they are. i have the jwt cams in my specv and they didn't require tuning, yet i'm sure i woulda made bigger gains having it dyno tuned. if the cams are just slightly more aggressive then stock then running on the stock ecu fuel and ignition maps shouldn't be an issue. yea in boosted cars you can tune out big power with cams and cam gears. it's been said that some d series honda guys can make 20whp just from tuning after installing cam gears. anyone know the stock cam specs on the 2.2?
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any time you put in cams that are different from the stock profiles, you need to tune accordingly for them. if you guys have no way to tune yet, then don't waste your money yet, seriously.
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thats not true, you can run and run well if the cams aren't very aggressive. now if the cam profiles are extreme then yes you will need to get tuned. and from what i have learned there isn't a easy way availible yet. like i saidi've installed cams before and i didn't get a reflash or tune for them and my car ran fine and had really nice gains. hense the turm computer friendly cams.
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if memory serves me well, which it doesn't most of the time, the 2.2 and 2.0 are the same engine..other than stroke, so why would these cams not work for the ss/sc...hmmm, cams is my next thing i think...
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Originally Posted by specvgini
thats not true, you can run and run well if the cams aren't very aggressive. now if the cam profiles are extreme then yes you will need to get tuned. and from what i have learned there isn't a easy way availible yet. like i saidi've installed cams before and i didn't get a reflash or tune for them and my car ran fine and had really nice gains. hense the turm computer friendly cams.
if you're going to buy aftermarket cams and not tune for them you're wasting your money in my opinion. if you were just going to swap in a set from a 2.0 then maybe you'll be fine since it won't be too odd, but you can't honestly expect a decent gain from that.
if it reads computer friendly it's most likely weak sauce, or can have a lot more power unlocked with proper tuning.
EDIT: I will give you this, the stock ECU does have a pretty good tuning ability. right now my a/f is smooth and at the level where I would have tuned it at anyway, so it isn't too bad, but I won't give it too much credit.
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Originally Posted by Ljavy17
Max boost is a business just like any other, stop talking out of your ass without knowing what really happened, frank has been running that business for years and the only problem why he is not a seller here anymore is because he had a problem paying for his seller fees.
We don't like Frank because mainly of his business ethics. I especially don't like him selling customers turbo parts saying it's one brand when really it's a knock off cheap part...but that's another topic.
So yes, he's been in so called business for years but he's only actually been a registered business in the state of Florida since earlier this year. Registered or not, he's no business anyone should buy from.
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What kind of gains could I expect from stage 1 from TTR and possibly the adjustable gears from JBP?
Basically, don't head into this thinking "so and so said I'll gain 10 HP, so I'm gonna gain 10 HP"...you could realistically lose 2 HP, you could gain 15. When increasing air flow, your a/f mixture changes and that makes a difference overall.
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Originally Posted by player_1
yah for my stage two, I need to tune so my by pass valve doesn't bleed the extra boost I gained.
but I'm sure with larger injectors, and some adjustments to timing, I could potentially gain 50WHP easy from stock
but I'm sure with larger injectors, and some adjustments to timing, I could potentially gain 50WHP easy from stock
First of all, are you getting a reflash from GM?
How do you plan on changing ignition timing? You have HP Tuners?