slick54

Which car would take which ?

D4u2s0t

it's close enough to be a drivers race. my 2.2 with intake exhaust and downpipe was a good bit quicker than my brother's tc. stock 2.2's are around 130 whp, tc's are around 140. but it's also a little heavier.

JRelly

Tc would beat you....im gonne get flamed for saying it but ive driven one, modded one, raced an LS in one and raced one in my SS/SC, it will beat you. Just being honest, They pull mid to low 15s in the quarter.

D4u2s0t

mid to low? you mean mid to high, right?

CleanNFun

Lol I just have an intake, I was at a light, and the guy in the tc took off, so I was playing catchup and I passed him by third :P

Edit : I have a 2.2 Manual

JRelly

Tc is rated from the factory as 160hp 163tq

no depending on driver mid to low, my friends has IHE and is runnin 15.2, and no i cant come up with a time slip to back it up becuase its not my car and i dont have his time slips laying around

VolklSkiier

not near 160 at the wheel's tho

JRelly

was he auto? becuase if so my 2.2 OHV cavy pulled on an auto

nramlow2006

ok. my buddy owns a tc.. stock vs stock he was faster...

each test was best out of 5 both cars where manual

0 to 100

tc has a 2.4 liter dohc vvt-i toyota's v-tak lol
balt has 2.2 liter dohc


each race it was about a car/ half car either way... except the last race almost everytime it was 2 cars
2.2l intake vs stock tc balt ftw
2.2l intak vs intake tc tc ftw
2.2l intake exhaust vs tc intake balt ftw
2.2l intake exaust vs tc intake axle back tc ftw...

JRelly

ok and what is the 2.2 rated at? 145? and thats not whp

DallasCobalt

Exactamundo!

JRelly

Im not trying to hate on you 2.2 guys but alot of you always say oh thats not whp but then you tell everyone you have 145 and expect 160 from IHE. you guys are not close to that. its just kinda hypocritical

nramlow2006

the 5 speed tc is way faster then the auto tc.. fact.. same i with the cobalt..

JRelly

yep

nramlow2006

agreed 100%

JRelly

finally somone agrees with me about this

D4u2s0t

so you're saying because a fully bolted tc ran a 15.2, that it is a mid to low 15 second car stock? don't think so.

well, i said that a 2.2 has about 130 and the tc has about 140. who said it's 145 at the wheels? and who said anything about 160 with boltons?

JRelly

I wasnt refering to you, I was refering to "many 2.2 owners". And no Im not saying it is a mid to low 15 second car stock, it is a mid to high car stock. But honestly IHE will not net you the type of gains everyone thinks. So Ill just leave it at this, if the Tc driver can drive it is a mid 15 second car stock.

nitrous818

yeah i think u will lose too. i have a stock 2.4 and every time i race one i only can beat it by 3 cars. from a dig they hang with me untill around 50 then i start to pull by 80 i have three cars on them. where i live im surounded by these little ***** think their fast as hell but i shut them up and my fellow sc friends to handle the tc sc ones.

D4u2s0t

ok cool. yea, that's the same thing i was saying

JRelly

The Tc weighs 2905-----The LS weighs 3216....those are curb weights found on yahoo

D4u2s0t

they're both wrong, i think you have them backwards. the scion is around 3200, and the ls is around 2900.

JRelly

thats just what i found off of yahoo...i didnt mix em up
Cobalt:
http://autos.yahoo.com/chevrolet_cob...n-specs/?p=ext
Scion Tc:
http://autos.yahoo.com/scion_tc_spor...e-specs/?p=ext

DallasCobalt

I just compared both on Yahoo. Both are 2007, manual transmission. LS-2991. tC-2905

The Cobalt you have listed is a sedan.

JRelly

ahh ok well that explains why...my bad....LS is still heavier, with less whp(whatever it may be)