Cobalt LS v. Ford Focus
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Cobalt LS v. Ford Focus
My buddy just got a ford focus with magnaflow exhaust and a 2in. lower with sport springs and he thinks that he can give me a run for my money, we have had a couple pulls down the road but noting "serious" what do yall think?
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Sry my bad i have the 5spd ls and he has the 03' zx4 hatch 5spd, with the 2.0,
i think ide kill him cause in the couple of times we played arround i was pulling him.
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i think ide kill him cause in the couple of times we played arround i was pulling him.
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Sry my bad i have the 5spd ls and he has the 2dr hatch 5spd i think its a zx3.
I think i would take him if we went to the drags only because wehen we have played on the street i pull him all arround. But who knows........
I think i would take him if we went to the drags only because wehen we have played on the street i pull him all arround. But who knows........
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you should be able to pull him easily
when racing a zx3 with intake/header/exhaust I regained 2 cars from the launch (i did not launch whatsoever) and then put an additional car on him before I shut down and probably would have kept pulling had I kept going.
my last car had the 2.0 zetec, its not as quick as the ecotec...neither is the 2.0 duratec
when racing a zx3 with intake/header/exhaust I regained 2 cars from the launch (i did not launch whatsoever) and then put an additional car on him before I shut down and probably would have kept pulling had I kept going.
my last car had the 2.0 zetec, its not as quick as the ecotec...neither is the 2.0 duratec
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yeah you can probably take him, unless he had a 5speed with my old engine, i had an automatic zx3 with the 2.3 engine, its like 145 hp or so but the cars only weigh like 2500
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these benchmark racing threads make me mad...cuz i'm hoping to read stories to pass the time at work and i get this "ohhh i wanna know what's gonna happen before it happens" it's dumb, just go race him and tell us what happened.
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sorry [/rant]
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I can tell you whats gonna happen, just look at the numbers. I was mainly going for an opinion form people on the comparrison between these two cars. Know one is making you read this btw.
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READ THIS, ITS FROM A FOCUS FORUM, WITH THE SAME QUESTION.
Focus Fanatics (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/index.php)
- ZETEC Performance Chat (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/f...php?forumid=39)
-- Focus v. Cobalt 2.2 (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...threadid=98315)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-18-2006 11:51 PM:
Focus v. Cobalt 2.2
My buddy just got a Cobalt 2.2 ls 5 spd and i have the 2.0 hatch 5spd with magnaflow exhaust and a sport spring kit, he has no mods. Aneway we are discussing racing and the few times we played on the street he pulled me but i want to take him to the local drags on their "street legal" night. Do you think i can take him??
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Posted by SkaAddict on 09-19-2006 12:04 AM:
It'd probably be a driver's race, and it sounds like your friend has his stuff together. Throw some more mods at your engine and you'll be able to beat him...a catback without header/highflow cat/ORP doesn't really do anything since the stock header and cat are so restrictive, and obviously springs aren't going to make you any faster (although get him to an autocross and you'll have a chance to beat him in the corners.)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:22 AM:
Our cars head to head.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j.../2smallcars.jpg
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Posted by magicleo2120 on 09-19-2006 12:32 AM:
i prefer the foci, not just because i own one, but the cobalts are not good looking. ewww hubcaps... j/k
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:46 AM:
The hub caps arnt that bad, they arnt rims but they are better than most.
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Posted by 01Kona on 09-19-2006 04:04 AM:
It will be alot better of a race then you'll think, he can prolly take you, hes got more hp and about the same weight.
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Posted by SVT Robzor on 09-19-2006 04:52 AM:
+1 for driver's race. The Ecotec is a decent piece of engine, the transaxle they bolted to it tho in the Cobalt is geared DEEP, and widely spaced, which should help you a bit.
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Posted by focusdarko on 09-19-2006 08:29 AM:
yea man i raced this one kid i know who had one with exhuast on, i had a crappy start in which i fell a car lenght behind, and it kinda stayed that way til the end. just launch good and dont miss your shifts and you'll take him
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-18-2006 11:51 PM:
Focus v. Cobalt 2.2
My buddy just got a Cobalt 2.2 ls 5 spd and i have the 2.0 hatch 5spd with magnaflow exhaust and a sport spring kit, he has no mods. Aneway we are discussing racing and the few times we played on the street he pulled me but i want to take him to the local drags on their "street legal" night. Do you think i can take him??
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Posted by SkaAddict on 09-19-2006 12:04 AM:
It'd probably be a driver's race, and it sounds like your friend has his stuff together. Throw some more mods at your engine and you'll be able to beat him...a catback without header/highflow cat/ORP doesn't really do anything since the stock header and cat are so restrictive, and obviously springs aren't going to make you any faster (although get him to an autocross and you'll have a chance to beat him in the corners.)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:22 AM:
Our cars head to head.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j.../2smallcars.jpg
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Posted by magicleo2120 on 09-19-2006 12:32 AM:
i prefer the foci, not just because i own one, but the cobalts are not good looking. ewww hubcaps... j/k
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:46 AM:
The hub caps arnt that bad, they arnt rims but they are better than most.
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Posted by 01Kona on 09-19-2006 04:04 AM:
It will be alot better of a race then you'll think, he can prolly take you, hes got more hp and about the same weight.
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Posted by SVT Robzor on 09-19-2006 04:52 AM:
+1 for driver's race. The Ecotec is a decent piece of engine, the transaxle they bolted to it tho in the Cobalt is geared DEEP, and widely spaced, which should help you a bit.
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-Edmunds.com, 2002
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Posted by focusdarko on 09-19-2006 08:29 AM:
yea man i raced this one kid i know who had one with exhuast on, i had a crappy start in which i fell a car lenght behind, and it kinda stayed that way til the end. just launch good and dont miss your shifts and you'll take him
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READ THIS, ITS FROM A FOCUS FORUM, WITH THE SAME QUESTION.
Focus Fanatics (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/index.php)
- ZETEC Performance Chat (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/f...php?forumid=39)
-- Focus v. Cobalt 2.2 (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...threadid=98315)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-18-2006 11:51 PM:
Focus v. Cobalt 2.2
My buddy just got a Cobalt 2.2 ls 5 spd and i have the 2.0 hatch 5spd with magnaflow exhaust and a sport spring kit, he has no mods. Aneway we are discussing racing and the few times we played on the street he pulled me but i want to take him to the local drags on their "street legal" night. Do you think i can take him??
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Posted by SkaAddict on 09-19-2006 12:04 AM:
It'd probably be a driver's race, and it sounds like your friend has his stuff together. Throw some more mods at your engine and you'll be able to beat him...a catback without header/highflow cat/ORP doesn't really do anything since the stock header and cat are so restrictive, and obviously springs aren't going to make you any faster (although get him to an autocross and you'll have a chance to beat him in the corners.)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:22 AM:
Our cars head to head.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j.../2smallcars.jpg
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Posted by magicleo2120 on 09-19-2006 12:32 AM:
i prefer the foci, not just because i own one, but the cobalts are not good looking. ewww hubcaps... j/k
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:46 AM:
The hub caps arnt that bad, they arnt rims but they are better than most.
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Posted by 01Kona on 09-19-2006 04:04 AM:
It will be alot better of a race then you'll think, he can prolly take you, hes got more hp and about the same weight.
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Posted by SVT Robzor on 09-19-2006 04:52 AM:
+1 for driver's race. The Ecotec is a decent piece of engine, the transaxle they bolted to it tho in the Cobalt is geared DEEP, and widely spaced, which should help you a bit.
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-Edmunds.com, 2002
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Posted by focusdarko on 09-19-2006 08:29 AM:
yea man i raced this one kid i know who had one with exhuast on, i had a crappy start in which i fell a car lenght behind, and it kinda stayed that way til the end. just launch good and dont miss your shifts and you'll take him
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Focus Fanatics (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/index.php)
- ZETEC Performance Chat (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/f...php?forumid=39)
-- Focus v. Cobalt 2.2 (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...threadid=98315)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-18-2006 11:51 PM:
Focus v. Cobalt 2.2
My buddy just got a Cobalt 2.2 ls 5 spd and i have the 2.0 hatch 5spd with magnaflow exhaust and a sport spring kit, he has no mods. Aneway we are discussing racing and the few times we played on the street he pulled me but i want to take him to the local drags on their "street legal" night. Do you think i can take him??
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Posted by SkaAddict on 09-19-2006 12:04 AM:
It'd probably be a driver's race, and it sounds like your friend has his stuff together. Throw some more mods at your engine and you'll be able to beat him...a catback without header/highflow cat/ORP doesn't really do anything since the stock header and cat are so restrictive, and obviously springs aren't going to make you any faster (although get him to an autocross and you'll have a chance to beat him in the corners.)
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:22 AM:
Our cars head to head.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j.../2smallcars.jpg
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Posted by magicleo2120 on 09-19-2006 12:32 AM:
i prefer the foci, not just because i own one, but the cobalts are not good looking. ewww hubcaps... j/k
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Posted by superfocus28 on 09-19-2006 12:46 AM:
The hub caps arnt that bad, they arnt rims but they are better than most.
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Posted by 01Kona on 09-19-2006 04:04 AM:
It will be alot better of a race then you'll think, he can prolly take you, hes got more hp and about the same weight.
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Posted by SVT Robzor on 09-19-2006 04:52 AM:
+1 for driver's race. The Ecotec is a decent piece of engine, the transaxle they bolted to it tho in the Cobalt is geared DEEP, and widely spaced, which should help you a bit.
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-Edmunds.com, 2002
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Posted by focusdarko on 09-19-2006 08:29 AM:
yea man i raced this one kid i know who had one with exhuast on, i had a crappy start in which i fell a car lenght behind, and it kinda stayed that way til the end. just launch good and dont miss your shifts and you'll take him
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So is that you or your friend on the other forum??? And why are you linking it here? I noticed that the cars are how you described. And you are from the same city, also w/ 6 posts. To me it doesn't seem like that huge of a challenge, you guys should just go out there and race.
Also I agree that this is the first link to another forum where they don't seem to be talking ****.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
focuses are crap imo. The fastest model (the svt) is still running very high 15's... you should be able to take him.
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Yes thats my friend (childhood friend) and yes we live in the same city and yes when we get the chance it will be on! Yea i was suprized too when there wasint as much cobalt bashing as i expected but its funny for them to say that if he "gets a good start and shifts good" that he will beat me. We will see........
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Originally Posted by red06LS
Yes thats my friend (childhood friend) and yes we live in the same city and yes when we get the chance it will be on! Yea i was suprized too when there wasint as much cobalt bashing as i expected but its funny for them to say that if he "gets a good start and shifts good" that he will beat me. We will see........
well yea, if he gets a perfect launch, with a perfect reaction time, hits all his shifts perfectly, and you spin through first and miss the 1-2 then he will beat you...
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The Fastest model (Saleen Focus) would probably take out a stock SS/SC in the 1/4!
yea well the saleen focus' warranty voids the second you use the nitrous that COMES WITH THE CAR....so let me rephrase my statement....focuses are crap for various reasons. Oh and the saleen focus is riced out to the max, has a 100 shot of nitrous and still only runs mid 14's.
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Originally Posted by roccityroller
well yea, if he gets a perfect launch, with a perfect reaction time, hits all his shifts perfectly, and you spin through first and miss the 1-2 then he will beat you...
I doubt any of the above since this is (for both of us) our first manual cars, so perfect launches and shifts are not always happening.
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