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Old 07-12-2008, 04:14 PM
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Couple of questions

I hate cars stock.

So, I'm looking at a cold air intake setup here shortly.

Is the K&N setup worth it? I really like K&N filters (I have two in my Camaro, one in my dad's E-150, and one in my mom's Pacifica).

It's pricy, but it looks like it fits really well.

Any comments?

Also, I've heard about throwing a 2.4L intake on the 2.2L. How well does that work?

Thanks.
Old 07-12-2008, 04:19 PM
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don't have the K&N but i'm sure it's fine. i have injen and love it and just about everyone likes their cai regardless of company. to be honest you can't go wrong, just pick on up.
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I too have an Injen CAI, Its a good setup, and easy to install. It took me like 15 min to install.
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i believe the 2.4 intake you heard of is in reference to the manifold. i could be wrong, but then the 2.4 intake would work as well.
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Yeah, sorry, I meant the manifold.

When I say intake, usually I mean intake manifold.
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ah, well here, you should specify, haha, someone might misinterpret.
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Yeah, my bad.

Most cars I'm used to don't have an intake tract.
My Camaro hardly has one. And it's one of the best factory intake setups on a vehicle.

Anyways, I noticed that the K&N is a short ram. Is that all right, or should I go with a "full" CAI?
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i'm not really too familiar with 2.2's, but i would recommend a full CAI over the SRI any day.
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cai unless you get an air ram hood to compliment the sri. the engine temps with an sri hurt performance a little. go injen and you get to choose which route you take and there's always the option to switch back when you want to.
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I would go with Injen as I have heard many good things about them.

However, like other members previously said, all CAIs are the same.. they all do the same job.

It just comes down to personal preference.
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All right, Injen is less expensive than the K&N anyways. The filter isn't crap, is it?

Also, I can use the same CAI if I swapped to a 2.4L intake manifold?
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just make sure to use a dry unoiled filter. K&N or any oiled filters(for intakes) have been know to throw codes(check engine light). Save yourself some trouble and use a dry filter.
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Originally Posted by Spanky's Monkey
cai unless you get an air ram hood to compliment the sri. the engine temps with an sri hurt performance a little. go injen and you get to choose which route you take and there's always the option to switch back when you want to.
or if you have the LT with the black inserts in the front bumper cover you should have an opening where the fog lights would go (if you dont have fog lights) that you can run a 3" tube from to an SRI. its what i did, works great... after driving hard for about 5 or 6 miles i got home and popped the hood, the intake tube was cool to the touch while the engine was ouch hot.

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All right, Injen is less expensive than the K&N anyways. The filter isn't crap, is it?

Also, I can use the same CAI if I swapped to a 2.4L intake manifold?
yes, but i'd recommend also getting the 2.4L tb with it and getting a tune, you'll see a lot more gains.

also, you'll wanna put on a header or the LSJ manifold and a good 2.5" exhaust. dont wanna put all that air into the engine and not be able to get it out fast enough

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I've never had a problem using oiled filters. Never thrown a code in any car I've used it in.

The problems really come from when you "recharge" the filter and use too much oil, and you don't have to recharge until about 50,000 miles.

Yeah, I don't have fogs at all.

So, 2.4L intakes...no place that sells new ones, I assume?
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go here for info on the 2.4 intake manifold
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...3&postcount=38
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So, what's the typical power gain seen from a 2.4L Manifold/TB upgrade? Any fuel mileage gains?
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dunno yet, still need the adapter plate and time to do it all.
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All right.

So the CAIs are the same for 2.2L and 2.4L manifolds, right?

I think I'll start with the CAI.

So, with the Injen, do I/should I get a filter?
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Dude i have to say something here. Look at an Aem cold air intake. Its about 300 bucks, look at an intake you will find on ebay for about 50-60 bucks. Same material, same bends, same ****. Its a pipe with a filter. Your paying for the name brand, when u could save urself about 250 bucks. I myself have an Aem, but in retrospect i would have much rather just bought an ebay cold air intake.
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AEM=JDM intake

can be found on advancedjdmparts.com, search for cobalt ull see it, 65 shipped...worth it, i have that with a KnN filter...works wonders...
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Everyone's right about the jdm intake. But if you are oging with a name brand, just make sure that the maf sensor sits the same distance from the throttle body as it did on the stock intake. To far or to close with throw the cel. I had a fujita cai and it did have a decent hp gain, but the maf sat further away from the TB. Later I sold it, got a K&N and no cel ever. Plus I felt I had more hp gain vs. the fujita. Plus the K&N has a heat shield and is on ebay new for $217 shipped last time I checked. Do a search just on the model # of the intake b/c the seller didnt put cobalt in the item desc.

BTW I always recommend an AEM dryflow filter. Cleaing & drying only takes 10-15 min tops.
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Cool



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and how much did that cost you? i'd never pay that much for an SRI, or any intake for that matter. its plastic (or metal) tubing. why pay that much for it? yeah yeah dyno tested blah blah blah. I'm willing to bet the jdm intake provides the same gain as injen or k&n.
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So, I'm seeing a few different things here.

First question that I really want an answer to is this.

Will a cold air intake (whether it be short-ram or full cold air intake) "designed" for a 2.2L work with the 2.4L?


Next.

I'm seeing that my two best options appear to be the Injen or the JDM CAI, is that correct?
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yes and yes


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