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Old 09-26-2006, 08:32 PM
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Question Custom Ram Air Question......

I noticed the air intake that comes from the bottom of our air box when i was putting in my new lights. Aneway i was thinking of re-pluming that so it would get fresh air from the lower grill. First question, would that help? Second question would that increase the rist of me hydrolocking my car??? If its safe and functional i will but i need to know this first... Thanks.
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I dont think that hydrolocking would be that major of an issue here. i think that you would only have to worry about that if tiy fully submerged ur bumper in water. if you put a short ram intake on ur car and modified the stock airbax to fit it, it would even more greatly decrease the chances. And yes, it would help, rather that pulling the air in that is just floating around in the wheels weel, you would be forcing the air into the pipe, creating a little more power.
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a ram air like that should not be a problem..im currently in the process of doing it on my car with the new XTC intake ill be protoypin it with. ill let u guys know..it should hopefully go in this week.
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Heres what you do, buy the INJEN intake, make it cold air, then cut a hole in the plastic under the bumber...BAM
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It would do very little of difference. I mean, if you want to do it, we aren't stopping you but just saying the gains are going to be little.
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Its just an ida im throwing out there. Any gain is better than a loss.............!
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Originally Posted by red06LS
Its just an ida im throwing out there. Any gain is better than a loss.............!
True but you have to think about where you're gain is coming from. Think of intake velocity. If you place your filter in that area and extend your tubing, think of how much farther air has to travel and how much longer your air intake velocity has to take to build up. So if you do this and you notice that you gain more power in the higher RPMs, well, you might have lossed a little in the lower RPMs.

So overall, this could be just a waste of time or it could just shift your powerband slightly.

It's up to you overall, just giving my opinion.
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it would be nice to tune the powerband..up too bad you cant on a 2.2 l61 engine. yes a ram air is a good idea but mainly its better for higher speeds..getting the air traveling to the cai at a much higher rate forcing the air into the engine. yes at low speeds it may not help..but u still will get some gain from it. my friend has one on his 2.0L and he was pretty much stock with airbox mod and ram air to the airbox mod and keeping up w/ stage II cobalts. a ram air def works.
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Dont expect much gain at all, I remembered you altered your stock intake, so your still going to be extremely restricted due to the intake design
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Ram air does nothing really. Just a waste of $$.
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i changed it just for now...im in the process of developing a intake with kenny from Cobalt Addiction for our cars. then possibly doing a ram air. so ur sayin with more forced air into a intake nothing will happen? thats saying if u force more air into a superchager it will do nothing..hmm interesting. well we will see what happens.
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unless you can actually make it to where you are actually pushing in more air than the motor can suck in you wont be gainind anything but sound.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
True but you have to think about where you're gain is coming from. Think of intake velocity. If you place your filter in that area and extend your tubing, think of how much farther air has to travel and how much longer your air intake velocity has to take to build up. So if you do this and you notice that you gain more power in the higher RPMs, well, you might have lossed a little in the lower RPMs.

So overall, this could be just a waste of time or it could just shift your powerband slightly.

It's up to you overall, just giving my opinion.

so what if i used my sri, the filter is made to run a pipe directly into the center, if i stay short ram, but ran the tube from it to the front of the car into a velocity stack would that be better than putting the filter at the front of the car
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Originally Posted by 06cobaltls
so what if i used my sri, the filter is made to run a pipe directly into the center, if i stay short ram, but ran the tube from it to the front of the car into a velocity stack would that be better than putting the filter at the front of the car
Only one way to find out.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
Only one way to find out.
Very true. maybe if you removed the front grill and ran some type of tubing from the SRI to the opening you'd see a worthwhile gain, but other than doing that i doubt a ram air would be anything to write home about.
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yooo tonio. i dunn bout the ram air..i think its a good idea..im finally getting some time to do my exhaust with probably the XTC HEader. also me and kenny from CA are making XTC intake for our car and the 2.4. should be on this week. ill let you know
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I took out my headlight today after work to see if i could do the ram air thing but where the snorkel is there is no way to pipe it to the lower grill, its like its in a closed box under the headlight, i would have to do some cutting if i really wanted to do this so i dono yet...........
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yep. u have to cut out a part of that "box" to run some piping to the middle of the grille.
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Originally Posted by iLLmaTic3s
it would be nice to tune the powerband..up too bad you cant on a 2.2 l61 engine. yes a ram air is a good idea but mainly its better for higher speeds..getting the air traveling to the cai at a much higher rate forcing the air into the engine. yes at low speeds it may not help..but u still will get some gain from it. my friend has one on his 2.0L and he was pretty much stock with airbox mod and ram air to the airbox mod and keeping up w/ stage II cobalts. a ram air def works.
im gonna have to pull the bullshit flag on that one. a ram air hardly works. and when it does work oyu have to be doing like 60 mph to even make it functional. and a ram air that might give you 5 horse at the engine is not gonna make you keep up with stage 2s. and you cant even make a real ram air for our cars anyway you can make it blow on one side of your cone filter or the other but thats not real ram air.
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Originally Posted by 06cobaltls
so what if i used my sri, the filter is made to run a pipe directly into the center, if i stay short ram, but ran the tube from it to the front of the car into a velocity stack would that be better than putting the filter at the front of the car
thats the way i have it but its not ram air its just giving you fresh air is all. because by the time the air gets there it doesn't really have any velocity left over to force thru the filter.
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Originally Posted by iLLmaTic3s
yooo tonio. i dunn bout the ram air..i think its a good idea..im finally getting some time to do my exhaust with probably the XTC HEader. also me and kenny from CA are making XTC intake for our car and the 2.4. should be on this week. ill let you know

Keep me updated man. Good luck.
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I saw that gm was coming out with this intake and someone posted something about making it ram air through the hood. Any idea on whether this would be better than going cai. Oh I also have the air injection and the only cai that i know of made for my car is from k&n if that even changes anything(I've just heard everyone boasting that injen is the best for our cars).BTW sorry to hyjack the thread.
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Originally Posted by 223RIMFIRE
I saw that gm was coming out with this intake and someone posted something about making it ram air through the hood. Any idea on whether this would be better than going cai. Oh I also have the air injection and the only cai that i know of made for my car is from k&n if that even changes anything(I've just heard everyone boasting that injen is the best for our cars).BTW sorry to hyjack the thread.
It won't make a difference honestly. The intake will perform the same way either way you do it.
Old 10-03-2006, 10:52 AM
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The stock air intake is in the right front fender. It is a multi-chamber, ugly ass piece of injection molded plastic. It takes air from behind the right front headlight, routes it through a tube with an air chamber above and a water chamber below, then up to the bottom of the air filter box.

You don't have to cut it. Just remove it as an assembly. Take the right front wheel and wheel well off to gain access. It's held in with just a couple of screws. Then run whatever kind of ram air pipe you want off the bottom of the filter box. If you are going to go to all that trouble however. I would just remove the stock filter box as well and run induction all the way from the throttle to where ever it is you are going to put your filter.
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