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Old 08-18-2008, 12:21 PM
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Exhaust manifold transfer.

Do you think it would be worthwhile to put an exhaust manifold from a 2.0 SC to a 2.2 LS? If it would even fit would there be a performance gain w/ a pacesetter header and magnaflow catback exhaust?
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think itd be pointless without a sc
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thx ..thats what i was thinkin.. then again .. i never knew putting a 2.4 mani gives ya 10 hp ..so i figured i'd ask u pros
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the 2.0 exhaust manifold is slightly larger then the 2.2 for 05-06. you can get it for free why not swap, I got a lsj exhaust mani, Dp and im putting in a GMPP exhaust this weekend. all free parts. the hp gains might be minimal but the exhaust sound would definitely be better than stock.

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Do you think it would be worthwhile to put an exhaust manifold from a 2.0 SC to a 2.2 LS? If it would even fit would there be a performance gain w/ a pacesetter header and magnaflow catback exhaust?
exhaust manifold and header are the same thing and all 07+ LS/LT's already have the lsj exh mani, but not the DP

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Old 08-18-2008, 02:32 PM
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heh i am by no means a pro..wait til someone else comments. but if your getting it for free. Buy everything you need to go SC and call it a day
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A change to the exhaust that allows it to flow freer is almost always advantagous. The 2006 2.2 exhaust manifold has a small "D" shaped outlet while the SS version (2.0 & 2.4 are exactly the same) has a larger "O" shaped outlet. The SS version is also straighter (fewer bend angles) then the 2.2's. If the 2.0 version flows enough to provide 205 ponies surely it can help your 2.2. If the change wasn't worth it do you think a 2.0 owner would put the 2.2 manifold on?
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It might free up 2 HP if your lucky, every little bit helps. Yuo would see much greater gains from a true header, but it will cost you $$$$.
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It would help some, but you would get a lot more gains from a pacesetter or Vibrant header...
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
It would help some, but you would get a lot more gains from a pacesetter or Vibrant header...
vinrant FTW
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Originally Posted by RyanRacer48
Do you think it would be worthwhile to put an exhaust manifold from a 2.0 SC to a 2.2 LS? If it would even fit would there be a performance gain w/ a pacesetter header and magnaflow catback exhaust?
not the same gains, but better sounding, cheaper, and little gain.

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exhaust manifold and header are the same thing and all 07+ LS/LT's already have the lsj exh mani, but not the DP
WHY does everybody think this? this is COMPLETELY FALSE. when i took my old 2.2 header out, it was discustingly crush bent and horribly welded... the lsj is way better

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heh i am by no means a pro..wait til someone else comments. but if your getting it for free. Buy everything you need to go SC and call it a day
everything to go sc would be very expensive. cant just spend thousands and call it a day..

if you dont have 200-300 bucks for an aftermarket header, get one from a LSJ owner for 50 bucks or less

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Originally Posted by SymbioteLT
...... and all 07+ LS/LT's already have the lsj exh mani, but not the DP
This is a false statement and seems to be growing on CSS.net. The 07 2.2 has a redesigned exhaust manifold but it is still not the 2.0/2.4 exhaust manifold....completely different part numbers.
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Originally Posted by SymbioteLT
the 2.0 exhaust manifold is slightly larger then the 2.2 for 05-06. you can get it for free why not swap, I got a lsj exhaust mani, Dp and im putting in a GMPP exhaust this weekend. all free parts. the hp gains might be minimal but the exhaust sound would definitely be better than stock.



exhaust manifold and header are the same thing and all 07+ LS/LT's already have the lsj exh mani, but not the DP
eddie is right all 07+ all have the same header, I'm still working on gettin me a SC DP.
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Originally Posted by blu3_v1p3r
eddie is right all 07+ all have the same header, I'm still working on gettin me a SC DP.
Bad rumor..............PNs are different between the 2.2 and 2.0/2.4 exhaust manifolds.
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you show me the part numbers and i'll believe it...
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Originally Posted by blu3_v1p3r
you show me the part numbers and i'll believe it...
Get ready I'm looking them up in the GM database....AGAIN...

From the GM database:

12581284 2.0 (LSJ) 2006-2007 2.4 (LE5) 2006-2008
12606689 2.2 (L61) Federal Emissions 2007-2008
12606805 2.2 (L61) SAI, California Emissions 2007-2008

The 2.2 is a freer flowing exhaust manifold but it still is not as "straight" as the 2.0/2.4 exhaust manifold

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also be careful as some of the 2.2's i do believe have their number 1 O2 sensor in the dp where as the 2.4/2.0 have the O2 sensor in the manifold
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Originally Posted by blu3_v1p3r
eddie is right all 07+ all have the same header, I'm still working on gettin me a SC DP.
eddie is wrong.

my old header: (which is NOT the same header on a ss/sc LOLLL)
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does my 08 ls coupe have an lsj header? i see some controversey
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if im wrong is cause I was misinformed here. and im sorry if im wrong.
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Originally Posted by wbrevels
does my 08 ls coupe have an lsj header? i see some controversey
The LSJ headers were put on 07+ models.
So if you have an 08, you have the LSJ header already.

I switched and installed the LSJ header. There is a difference. Not sure on the HP as doing a Dyno after that would be a waste of money in my opinion. I also switched to a LSJ DP too though.
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I have an '06 manifold(lsj) if anyones interested, but would prefer someone local as I am often 2busy to go to post office,ups,fedex.
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Originally Posted by Gotenks
The LSJ headers were put on 07+ models.
So if you have an 08, you have the LSJ header already.
did you even ******* see my post?

your WRONG.
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Originally Posted by bridfi
not the same gains, but better sounding, cheaper, and little gain.



WHY does everybody think this? this is COMPLETELY FALSE. when i took my old 2.2 header out, it was discustingly crush bent and horribly welded... the lsj is way better



everything to go sc would be very expensive. cant just spend thousands and call it a day..

if you dont have 200-300 bucks for an aftermarket header, get one from a LSJ owner for 50 bucks or less

You guys are always so right on it's amazing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...263643523&rd=1

In case you don't see the link, I got mine for 25+25 shipping and it's semi-ported at the inlet and outlet.

50 isn't bad, but I'm not expecting a large gain. I still need the gaskets right?
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Originally Posted by Sentry
You guys are always so right on it's amazing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...263643523&rd=1

In case you don't see the link, I got mine for 25+25 shipping and it's semi-ported at the inlet and outlet.

50 isn't bad, but I'm not expecting a large gain. I still need the gaskets right?
yes, get a 3 bolt flange gasket and a head-exhaust manifold gasket.

only thing i see wrong here if you dont have the o2 sensor in the original head, the LSJ header comes with a bung in the header so you'll need to get a bung plug.
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lol on the refund, after they ship it back u gain 0, and theygain 0, lol


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