2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 02-26-2008, 02:16 AM
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idk...just trying to clear things up but now im mad confused...u mean the 2.4 does run outta room soo the smaller 2.2 wouldnt be able to pack more? lol if that was completly idiodic lmk cause i cant think straight right now
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
And I answered it to the best of my knowledge in my last post.

The 2.4s don't run outta room why would a smaller motor?
How much more clear do you want me to make it
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did i ever mentioin im a total noob at all this

but if a 2.4 DOESNT run outta room a 2.2 would cause its smaller...correct?

or am i missing something


Old 02-26-2008, 02:27 AM
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Ok.

Real slow now.



Listnen...read...whatever...why would a car that makes less power need more fuel?

The way you are thinking...******* vettes would get 3928472938749238 MPG
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it is still in testing, wait here and we will tell you when were and how much...
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ok soo your saying a smaller engine needs less fuel to run?....Since when!?!
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Originally Posted by Kwin
ok soo your saying a smaller engine needs less fuel to run?....Since when!?!
If you are being serious you fail at life
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hahaha sorry i forgot

/sarcasm to my post above

and ur in jersey too...what u doing up too late lol
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im kinda on the same note....the bigger the engine...the more air and therefor fuel it takes to fill and fire a cylinder...common knowledge...bigger engine = more fuel...
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
im kinda on the same note....the bigger the engine...the more air and therefor fuel it takes to fill and fire a cylinder...common knowledge...bigger engine = more fuel...
i dont see your logic

/sarcasm

but someone was inquiring above about bigger injectors and if it was possible to shove the correct amount of air using a bigger throttle body and manifold in order to match the larger amount of fuel being injected into the the smaller 2.2 engine with larger injectors...injectors larger than the 2.4 which steddy...i think...was trying to say that the 2.4 cant do it and it has top of the line cam and nonsense then the smaller 2.2 wont be able to do it cause it would take that much more force in a smaller space

and if that makes any sense ill be amazed
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Originally Posted by Kwin
hahaha sorry i forgot

/sarcasm to my post above

and ur in jersey too...what u doing up too late lol
Working
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ooo...or are you working hardly....or hardly working?
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I work at DuPont...what is hard work?

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Originally Posted by steddy2112
I work at DuPont...what is hard work?

trying to get your point across to me on css
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I mean


I WORK VERY HARD

*work work work*
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however it was stated earlier that with full bolt ons the 2.4 or 2.2 doesnt max the injectors out, howver are a TB and 2.4 swap included with those bolt ons, and do the 2.4/2.2 use the same injectors?
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hahahaha thats more like it

but honestly who comes to dupont at 3 in the morning
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Originally Posted by 07BluBalt
however it was stated earlier that with full bolt ons the 2.4 or 2.2 doesnt max the injectors out, howver are a TB and 2.4 swap included with those bolt ons, and do the 2.4/2.2 use the same injectors?
Dude what are you smoking?

2.4s...have a 2.4 manifold...

And there is nothing to gain from a bigger TB
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And there is nothing to gain from a bigger TB[/QUOTE]

there just making you feel better when they say that, but its ok its cute
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Dude what are you smoking?

2.4s...have a 2.4 manifold...

And there is nothing to gain from a bigger TB
i really meant 2.2 specifically for the swap...not that car illiterate...i think.., but it would seem to me by increasing the TB size by porting or replacing and doin the 2.4 swap, with tuning you could make the 32#'s work with it....has this been done already or is it not possible?
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Fine, must we nit pick.

Ahem.

Unless you are using a type of forced induction there is nothing to be gained by a larger throttle body.

Originally Posted by 07BluBalt
i really meant 2.2 specifically for the swap...not that car illiterate...i think.., but it would seem to me by increasing the TB size by porting or replacing and doin the 2.4 swap, with tuning you could make the 32#'s work with it....has this been done already or is it not possible?
This isn't the days of old when it comes to TBs. Porting you will gain a little, not enough to be like ZOMG LOOK GAIS!

That and a larger throttle body on a fly by wire system is a royal pain in the ass to rewire.

In final:

L61s and LE5s do not need larger injectors.

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goodness gracious people
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yeh not like just tossin a huge cam liek on old v-8's anymore i spose right. lol
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i might be mistaken...correct me if im wrong...but i think a throttle body is just like drinking plain water through a fat straw were it just flows relativly smooth...while any type of F/I is like sucking a milkshake through a tiny straw...were that extra force is needed to compress the gas in the little cylinder

so a smaller 2.2 cylinder would not have enough power form a larger tb to force air into the cylinders
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I am done.

No one listens or is too busy being a smartass...


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