First Custom Road tune on the E16!
02-27-2008, 08:43 PM
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First off i dont know where you get your info but ITB's do have filters...
Second...not all of us are jumping the boosted banwagon...some of us would rather "waste" our money building muscle w/ metal like over boring and a high comp motor. It doesn't have the sound of a spool or the sound of a BOV....but it does work and is more of a challenge. So dont knock on ITB's
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Are you saying this tune is only for those going boosted or something? You do know there is life BEYOND boost right?
Second...not all of us are jumping the boosted banwagon...some of us would rather "waste" our money building muscle w/ metal like over boring and a high comp motor. It doesn't have the sound of a spool or the sound of a BOV....but it does work and is more of a challenge. So dont knock on ITB's
....Are you saying this tune is only for those going boosted or something? You do know there is life BEYOND boost right?
02-27-2008, 09:24 PM
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i am not boosted...and wont be for quite a while..i am saying that for a car like ours...at least mine...that is a daily driver...and a track car...it doesnt make sense to spend that type of money for that...what type of gains are we looking at for tis...minimal. your car can only handle so much air...until you do the internals. I was not slamming anyone or knocking on ITB...just saying that it is a waste for most applications
Prototype...I believe they sell them but at a hefty price due to low demand.
02-27-2008, 09:42 PM
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02-28-2008, 02:41 PM
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02-28-2008, 03:19 PM
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There are plenty of bad ass N/A cars out there that put down serious numbers and are driven on the street. ITB's benefit motors who have high compression and the right cam, head work and other internal options(N/A Motor).Power your looking at about a 15hp gain. And it's not just about getting more air in...ITB's allow the engine to operate more efficiently by decreasing pumping losses to achieve more horsepower and runner length can be tuned. We're also talking about increased TB response. Can it be put on a stock engine...yes...will it increase hp dramatically on a stock engine...no....but w/ the right build these are way better than a single TB. It's a bit of a pain in the ass to tune but we wouldn't be tuning if it was easy. I see what your saying about them but it's just a mater of personal preference. To me i dont see the point of putting on a turbo when you can ONLY have about 6-8 PSI. I would rather build the engine running no boost, no nitrous and see where my engine stands. then maybe later go for turbo. Boost is great and everything...but i've just got sick and tired of all the "wanting to build a turbo," "looking to go turbo," "I NEED BOOST," threads ECT.....anyone can just slap on a turbo once tuning is available and the money is there. I think it just takes a lil more skill to build a motor crank up as opposed to bolt on power adders. A skill i want to improve on...but thats just me...
Prototype...I believe they sell them but at a hefty price due to low demand.
Prototype...I believe they sell them but at a hefty price due to low demand.
Im gonna kinda go out on a limb here and say thats stupid. If your going to go all motor, stay all motor. Because if your going to buy high compression pistons you wont be able to run boost later on. You would have wasted money and time building the NA motor that when you add boost into the equation you wont be able to run much at all because your CR is so high. Either stay NA or go all boost. Honestly i've seen just as many 'going all NA build' threads as 'im going turbo' threads. So until I see that you actually did something, your just like the rest of the 'going boosted' guys...
02-28-2008, 03:33 PM
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Im gonna kinda go out on a limb here and say thats stupid. If your going to go all motor, stay all motor. Because if your going to buy high compression pistons you wont be able to run boost later on. You would have wasted money and time building the NA motor that when you add boost into the equation you wont be able to run much at all because your CR is so high. Either stay NA or go all boost. Honestly i've seen just as many 'going all NA build' threads as 'im going turbo' threads. So until I see that you actually did something, your just like the rest of the 'going boosted' guys...
02-28-2008, 03:34 PM
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Im gonna kinda go out on a limb here and say thats stupid. If your going to go all motor, stay all motor. Because if your going to buy high compression pistons you wont be able to run boost later on. You would have wasted money and time building the NA motor that when you add boost into the equation you wont be able to run much at all because your CR is so high. Either stay NA or go all boost. Honestly i've seen just as many 'going all NA build' threads as 'im going turbo' threads. So until I see that you actually did something, your just like the rest of the 'going boosted' guys...
02-28-2008, 03:44 PM
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TROOF.... but you guys are getting in WAAAAYYYY over your head! And I forsee some dissapointed people, here sometime soon!
02-28-2008, 04:00 PM
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I think i remember saying i would maybe go turbo...I think i remember saying it cause i was there when i said it. Second...where are these N/A build threads...i haven't started one yet cause i still haven't put together the parts. I know you where one of the first to jump on the turbo wagon but how hard can it be to slap on a turbo and have SOMEONE ELSE, like Alpine, tune the car for you. It takes a lot more time and effort to build an NA or a advanced turbo set up which i have yet to see you do. I wouldn't see it as time wasted...just good fun.
Im just saying you SOUND just like the rest of them when saying what you did. Oh, and there are a good 2-3 active NA build threads right now. This tuning solution is not geared towards crazy NA builds. If your going to do that, you should be looking at a standalone. But whatever it is you decide to do, good luck because a fast cobalt is a fast cobalt in my mind.
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02-28-2008, 07:42 PM
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Ive been checking on the thread but your "next week dyno" post was lost in the thread jacking lol.. i'll keep checking in
02-28-2008, 10:38 PM
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02-29-2008, 08:54 AM
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also my wifes 2.2 revs to 7k from the factory. whats all this talk about raising the rev limiter to 7k. unless they changed them for diff years. hers is an 07. will the tuning work for this car? i told her we might be able to tune it a bit she got all excited, i hope it will work for her motor
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02-29-2008, 10:44 AM
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just to mess with you guys my 5.7l lt1 uses 32 pound injectors and it makes alot more power than my 2.0l cobalt motor and the cobalt has 42's in it ha ha ha just to mess with you guys a bit
also my wifes 2.2 revs to 7k from the factory. whats all this talk about raising the rev limiter to 7k. unless they changed them for diff years. hers is an 07. will the tuning work for this car? i told her we might be able to tune it a bit she got all excited, i hope it will work for her motor
also my wifes 2.2 revs to 7k from the factory. whats all this talk about raising the rev limiter to 7k. unless they changed them for diff years. hers is an 07. will the tuning work for this car? i told her we might be able to tune it a bit she got all excited, i hope it will work for her motor
whats this basphamy you speak of. i demand videos of this
ur not right.
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02-29-2008, 10:45 AM
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also my wifes 2.2 revs to 7k from the factory. whats all this talk about raising the rev limiter to 7k. unless they changed them for diff years. hers is an 07. will the tuning work for this car? i told her we might be able to tune it a bit she got all excited, i hope it will work for her motor
