Getrag Manual Transmission
08-24-2007, 02:49 PM
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Getrag Manual Transmission
Hey everyone,
Im a little confused on which way to go with performance because I was told that the Getrag transmission is not made to safely support more than 180hp? Can someone explain to me then why so many 2.2's are using turbos and sc's then? Isnt it super risky?
Im a little confused on which way to go with performance because I was told that the Getrag transmission is not made to safely support more than 180hp? Can someone explain to me then why so many 2.2's are using turbos and sc's then? Isnt it super risky?
08-24-2007, 03:10 PM
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Not all getrag's are built the same. whoever told you getrag doesn't build a tranny that safely supports more than 180hp was talking out their ass.
08-24-2007, 03:56 PM
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I beat my car up and tranny seems to be holding up so far. I will be testing the limits of the F23 tranny here in the next month or so with the procharger setup. We will see if it can handle 400whp, give or take. =P
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08-24-2007, 07:34 PM
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So if I put the Garrett turbo, a CAI, full catback, and internals...will this still hold up..cuase Id be pushing like 260 - 280hp...new tranny time when I do this??
08-24-2007, 08:26 PM
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lol
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haha thanks. if ur lookin toboost ur 07 wait for my results on the AEM FIC. should be good =P
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08-24-2007, 09:54 PM
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http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1928
LSJ MANUAL TRANS SPECS
2007 GME Sweden F35 ( MU3 ) 04/04/06
Type: transverse front wheel drive, five-speed manual transaxle ( optional with limited slip differential )
Engine range: 2.0L I-4 supercharged
Maximum engine torque: 200 lb-ft ( 271 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque: 258 lb-ft ( 350 Nm )
Gear ratios: MU3
First: 3.38
Second: 1.76
Third: 1.18
Fourth: 0.89
Fifth: 0.7
Reverse: 3.17
Final Drive Ratio: 4.04
Maximum validated gross vehicle weight 2300 kg
Case material: aluminum
Center distance: 76.5mm
Fluid type: Castrol BOT 0063
Transmission weight: wet: 45 kg ( 99 lb )
Fluid capacity (approximate): 1.7L / 2.0 qt. ( dry )
Power take off: no
Applications: Chevrolet Cobalt
Saturn ION
2007 GME Sweden F35 ( MU3 ) 04/04/06
Type: transverse front wheel drive, five-speed manual transaxle ( optional with limited slip differential )
Engine range: 2.0L I-4 supercharged
Maximum engine torque: 200 lb-ft ( 271 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque: 258 lb-ft ( 350 Nm )
Gear ratios: MU3
First: 3.38
Second: 1.76
Third: 1.18
Fourth: 0.89
Fifth: 0.7
Reverse: 3.17
Final Drive Ratio: 4.04
Maximum validated gross vehicle weight 2300 kg
Case material: aluminum
Center distance: 76.5mm
Fluid type: Castrol BOT 0063
Transmission weight: wet: 45 kg ( 99 lb )
Fluid capacity (approximate): 1.7L / 2.0 qt. ( dry )
Power take off: no
Applications: Chevrolet Cobalt
Saturn ION
2.2 L61 and 2.4 VVT LE5 MANUAL TRANS SPECS
2007 Getrag F23 ( M86/MG3 ) 04/04/06
Type: transverse front wheel drive, five-speed manual transaxle
Engine range: 2.2L - 2.4L DOHC (M86/MG3)
Maximum engine torque: 155 lb-ft ( 210 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque: 170 lb-ft ( 230 Nm )
Gear ratios: M86 MG3
First: 3.58 3.58
Second: 2.02 2.02
Third: 1.35 1.35
Fourth: 0.98 0.98
Fifth: 0.69 0.81
Reverse: 3.31 3.31
Final Drive Ratio: (M86) 3.84( Cobalt, ION ), 4.17( HHR )
Final Drive Ratio: (MG3) 4.41( VUE )
Maximum validated gross vehicle weight: M86: 4094 lb ( 1857 kg ) MG3: 4475 lb ( 2030 kg )
Case material: aluminum
Center distance: 75 mm
Fluid type: DEXTRON III
Transmission weight: 46.3 kg ( 102 lb )
Fluid capacity (approximate): M86: 1.7L / 1.8 qt ( dry ) MG3: 1.8L / 1.9 qt ( dry )
Power take off: no
Applications: Chevrolet Cobalt ( M86 )
Pontiac Pursuit ( M86 )
Saturn ION ( M86 )
Chevrolet HHR ( M86 )
Saturn VUE ( MG3 )
2007 Getrag F23 ( M86/MG3 ) 04/04/06
Type: transverse front wheel drive, five-speed manual transaxle
Engine range: 2.2L - 2.4L DOHC (M86/MG3)
Maximum engine torque: 155 lb-ft ( 210 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque: 170 lb-ft ( 230 Nm )
Gear ratios: M86 MG3
First: 3.58 3.58
Second: 2.02 2.02
Third: 1.35 1.35
Fourth: 0.98 0.98
Fifth: 0.69 0.81
Reverse: 3.31 3.31
Final Drive Ratio: (M86) 3.84( Cobalt, ION ), 4.17( HHR )
Final Drive Ratio: (MG3) 4.41( VUE )
Maximum validated gross vehicle weight: M86: 4094 lb ( 1857 kg ) MG3: 4475 lb ( 2030 kg )
Case material: aluminum
Center distance: 75 mm
Fluid type: DEXTRON III
Transmission weight: 46.3 kg ( 102 lb )
Fluid capacity (approximate): M86: 1.7L / 1.8 qt ( dry ) MG3: 1.8L / 1.9 qt ( dry )
Power take off: no
Applications: Chevrolet Cobalt ( M86 )
Pontiac Pursuit ( M86 )
Saturn ION ( M86 )
Chevrolet HHR ( M86 )
Saturn VUE ( MG3 )
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08-24-2007, 10:09 PM
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Nope.
http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1928
What does that have to do with anything?
http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1928
What does that have to do with anything?
08-26-2007, 05:15 AM
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so basically what is being said here is that the stock tranny and clutch can hold 200/220 hp/tq that hahns turbo kit offers?
and i wanna know, for future reference, when to replace clutch with a higher stage and what else would need replaced for 250/280 hp/tq (rough estimates)
and i wanna know, for future reference, when to replace clutch with a higher stage and what else would need replaced for 250/280 hp/tq (rough estimates)
08-26-2007, 10:23 AM
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so basically what is being said here is that the stock tranny and clutch can hold 200/220 hp/tq that hahns turbo kit offers?
and i wanna know, for future reference, when to replace clutch with a higher stage and what else would need replaced for 250/280 hp/tq (rough estimates)
and i wanna know, for future reference, when to replace clutch with a higher stage and what else would need replaced for 250/280 hp/tq (rough estimates)
08-26-2007, 03:48 PM
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well im only 20 and ive been drivin for 4 years. i mean im not that great but im not bad at driving lol. i put 120K miles an a 03 cavy and sold with the stock clutch still workin good n i sit in rush hour a lot since i work construction. but are you saying that the stock tranny is capible of 300 hp&tq? or is 250 about the limit? i didnt quite understand what u meant by that reply
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