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Old 08-02-2007, 02:39 PM
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Grounding Kit

What is it and what does it do. one of my friends said i should look into it. can someone link me and explain what it is?
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NO CLUE MAN, jk

but seriously no clue
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Well A Grounding Kit Replaces All Of The Engine Ground Wires With A Thicker Gauge Wire What It Acctually Does Im Not Sure I Had One On My Rsx
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improve anything? easy install?
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Easy Install And No I Didnt Feel Any Difference It Was Kinda Pointless I Work At A Dealership And Asked Everyone And They Said U Might Feel A Little Difference If Its A Much Thicker Gauge
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Hey if you want 5 hp to the ground 15 to crank, buy a grounding kit, there not that much. like 30 or 40 bucks. Some are like 150 but those are like HKS made. Also if you have a system in your car buy a voltage regulator, It improves take off and torque in mid range rpm.
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Originally Posted by DomDiggity
Hey if you want 5 hp to the ground 15 to crank, buy a grounding kit, there not that much. like 30 or 40 bucks. Some are like 150 but those are like HKS made. Also if you have a system in your car buy a voltage regulator, It improves take off and torque in mid range rpm.
Im confused... how do thicker grounding wires add HP?
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Originally Posted by OrngBalt
Im confused... how do thicker grounding wires add HP?
They don't. Thats what the companies that sell them claim, you know kinda like how the Tornado adds 20hp and gives you 30% better fuel milage. Its a gimick plain and simple and untill I see a dyno result from a car before and then directly after the install on the same dyno on the same day then I'm calling BS.
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well I don't knw if that was totally true, but some guy with an rsx-s commented that on my youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmeWMwEXkg
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Originally Posted by DomDiggity
Hey if you want 5 hp to the ground 15 to crank, buy a grounding kit, there not that much. like 30 or 40 bucks. Some are like 150 but those are like HKS made. Also if you have a system in your car buy a voltage regulator, It improves take off and torque in mid range rpm.
good lord the misinformation and uneducated answers continue to fly around here

you'd be lucky to get 1-3 CRANK hp out of a grounding kit. it's main function is to smooth out the variances in voltage circulating through your cars electronic systems so they can send cleaner signals. through adding such a kit, in theory, your ignition and fuel delivery systems should be able to theoretically operate more efficiently and perhaps deliver a slight power increase. you'll probably more likely notice that your car may run slightly smoother rather than a power gain.
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Originally Posted by GSoccer24
good lord the misinformation and uneducated answers continue to fly around here

you'd be lucky to get 1-3 CRANK hp out of a grounding kit. it's main function is to smooth out the variances in voltage circulating through your cars electronic systems so they can send cleaner signals. through adding such a kit, in theory, your ignition and fuel delivery systems should be able to theoretically operate more efficiently and perhaps deliver a slight power increase. you'll probably more likely notice that your car may run slightly smoother rather than a power gain.
the most noticeable difference i hear is a slight increase in throttle response. the kit will lower electronic resistance to the trottle body, decreasing the time between hitting the gas and the actual throttle opening

not worth the cash if you ask me
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Go to sonicelectronix.com and buy some thick gauge wire and make ur own like everyother ricer
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Lmao^^
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I installed just a ground wire kit on my 1989 Dodge Daytona ES and it made a very noticeable difference. The up and go was better, but only noticeable because it was a 2.5 liter non-turbo engine with 100 hp and 130 lbs torque.

On a car with almost 50% more horses like the Cobalt, I doubt you will notice anything.

I will say that it is worth every cent, at $30 it added at least 3 horses.
The reason I say at least 3 is because any less and it would not even register on the butt dyno.

The start up of the car also was quicker.

The problem with a Cobalt is the battery is in the trunk so setting up a ground kit is not so easy. If you find an optimal set-up, let me know.
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a thread on a grounding kit shouldnt have lasted this long like i said go to sonicelectronix.com get cheap 0 gauge wire and make ur own kit and the n all u have to do is install ur rice induction chamber for u new rice rocket cuz ur grounding kit just gave u 60 wheel horse power
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I don't think it's a bad idea, I just recently had a big problem with my powersteering unit breaking down and blowing fuses on me constantly. Found out it was just a bad ground, I regrounded the wires and it was fine.
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hm and that has what to do with a grounding kit. or are u implying that i should run out and buy a grounding kit in case i start blowing fused because i might get a bad ground. hmm thnx alot
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rather than buy a kit, i recomend you invest in the companies that sell them, then advertise them to every ***** out there with a honda and tell them how much they need them. yes, not all honda drivers are ******, but it reminds me of the honda/ tampon joke. every ***** needs one.

Anyways its a complete waste of money. If you have an old car and for whatever reason the ground cables need to be replaced, going bigger is usually a good idea. I think you would lose more performance from the increased weight than you would gain from the extra power. Yes I know its maybe an extra pound.

So i guess what i'm saying is rather than do this, just vacuum all the dirt out of your carpet and call it a performance mod.
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YES! I just vaccumed my car today! Thats like 30hp
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Originally Posted by -NIVEK-
YES! I just vacuumed my car today! Thats like 30hp
its actually only like 10 . BUT if you get the official ShopVac stickers, one for each side, in the biggest size they make, they are worth 10hp each. so there is your 30hp.
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hey I'm just saying look under your hood anyone. The grounds in these cars are not very good. Covered in paint and not very good contact. I intend on wire wheel grinding the paint off the contacts and that will most likely give you the same effect. Not to mention I might stop blowing my left headlight all the time!
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Grounding kits i cobalts do make a small difference. Most of the sensor on our cars run 5 volts. without proper grounding there can be differences in what the sensors are seeing when the alternator varies current through the rpm and anything from sound system to fans to ignition work at random variables it can only improve performance. Especially when the battery is farther away from the alternator so there can be volatge inregularities. Also injectors run on very low voltage so surges can lead to richer or leaner than u might want. I do not believe however u need a kit for proper grounding. If u care simply add extra ground to the alternator and pcm
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lol everythings rice nowadays.

no, a grounding kit isnt going to add power. i doubt even 1 crank hp. but it will just make every electrical connection... better. more contact on the car, and probably much less resistance in the wire.

i mean its not really necessary but if you have a system or tv monitors, etc..

http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...TID=73496&PN=1
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I figure that at best, the car might run a little smoother and possible gain a couple of ponies at the crank. Not alot, but I did spend $200 on an intake that probably only yielded me 4whp, so spending $50 on some 2 ga wire isn't too much of a risk.

Plus, I figured that if it doesn't make any difference at all, I can try it on my sister's older Malibu. From what I've heard, older cars benefit more from these setups.
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