Is it just me, back me up 2.2 guys...
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Originally Posted by YellowLT
Heres is my favor smack on the 2.2, when talking about supercharging the 2.2 this is always the response i get.
"Why dont you just trade it in for a ss s/c and dont waste your time or money."
Geez that pisses me off so much. If i could have afford the car and the insurance i would have gotten one. Plus the wing is fugly
"Why dont you just trade it in for a ss s/c and dont waste your time or money."
Geez that pisses me off so much. If i could have afford the car and the insurance i would have gotten one. Plus the wing is fugly
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People are always gona talk down to others because they think they are better when really they have no room to talk. So in reality, just ignore them, and they will stop.
later
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the problem is ALOT of ss owners don't realize the potential that the 2.2 has. a few grand and a turbo running less boost then them and you are already making more power.
granted 8 psi out of a 16g is not the same as 8psi out of the LSJ's m62, but a few grand and you've got more power for less than an SS/SC
granted 8 psi out of a 16g is not the same as 8psi out of the LSJ's m62, but a few grand and you've got more power for less than an SS/SC
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whats funny is that in the future the 2.2l will have more potential than the 2.0, not the 2.4 cause it has vvt and will also be able to turbo, or supercharge which if you notice with the same upgrades and equipment you 2.0l, 2.2l, and 2.4l which goes to show you which ones have more potential in the future.
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i love the 2.2. people may say that its slow or whatever but i find it easy to work on. the mods are very effective. and guess what,(our motor is indestructable muhahahahaha!) Seriously, ive raced a Corolla S and a Few Civics and this thing just owns!
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Originally Posted by 06Pursuit
i love the 2.2. people may say that its slow or whatever but i find it easy to work on. the mods are very effective. and guess what,(our motor is indestructable muhahahahaha!) Seriously, ive raced a Corolla S and a Few Civics and this thing just owns!
no, they're right, in stock form, this car is far from fast (see: 350z TT or AMS Evo), but it has the potential to be faster than ss's which is what the SS's wont admit. The blower is limited by its max CFM rating, whereas the 16g which is coming on the hahn kit will hold up to 35 psi
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the 2.2 definetly has potential ...i too ran a 15.6 at 88 mph. thats on a stock motor. ad a supercharger to the 14,000 base price and you got what? 16,000 or 18,000 at most. there already faster and still 4,000 dollars to play with. and we are only one second slower than a stock ss s/c thats alot on the track but not on the street. not much at all
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Originally Posted by ted5986
the 2.2 definetly has potential ...i too ran a 15.6 at 88 mph. thats on a stock motor. ad a supercharger to the 14,000 base price and you got what? 16,000 or 18,000 at most. there already faster and still 4,000 dollars to play with. and we are only one second slower than a stock ss s/c thats alot on the track but not on the street. not much at all
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Originally Posted by roccityroller
no, they're right, in stock form, this car is far from fast (see: 350z TT or AMS Evo), but it has the potential to be faster than ss's which is what the SS's wont admit. The blower is limited by its max CFM rating, whereas the 16g which is coming on the hahn kit will hold up to 35 psi
I spent less than 2500 on a very mild build for my 2.2 and I run with PLENTY of Redlines and SS/SC's, so it's definitely possible and not insanely difficult
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Originally Posted by dnbguy86
Here recently, it seems as most people with 2.0L Supercharged cobalts are talking down on us 2.2L guys.
best way to shut them up, be faster than them.
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I have an 05 Cobalt LS and live on a military post. Even the military SS owners think they are so tough but most of them cant drive. All that money they spend on car payments they cant mod them so im not worried. As soon as our mods start rolling i'll be racing them again.
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I'm a lover, not a fighter!
Cobalts are Cobalts, so can't we all just get along?
Hey, if I had the moolah, I would've bought an SS/SC yesterday, but as it stands, I've got a 2.2 and I love it.
Cobalts are Cobalts, so can't we all just get along?
Hey, if I had the moolah, I would've bought an SS/SC yesterday, but as it stands, I've got a 2.2 and I love it.
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Originally Posted by niknyce
I think the reason most of them talk down on 2.2l owners is because the 2.2 guys seem to do MORONIC things... like put SS/SC wings on their cars.... I mean... cmon...
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
well duh, look at the same of the site. happens on the redline forums too sometimes.
best way to shut them up, be faster than them.
best way to shut them up, be faster than them.
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[QUOTE=dnbguy86]Here recently, it seems as most people with 2.0L Supercharged cobalts are talking down on us 2.2L guys. It kinda gets on my nerves when they do this because well pretty much the 2.0L SS/ 2.4SS are variants of the 2.2L ecotec.
well, i have no ill will toward any owner of any cobalt. my ill will is toward gm. why on earth do you offer so many varrients of the SS. SS is supposed to be the top of the line. what ever top of the line motor combo package you want to put on it, do it and badge it as a SS and leave it at that. you wanna make 3 other kinds, call em something other than a SS. ltz, ls, lt, whatever you want, but not an SS. they never had 3 differnet z24 combos did they? and theres only one ZO6, not 3. thats my only concern or gripe. on a footnote, the 2.2 and the 2.4 have the only thing we can not add to our 2.0......displacement!
well, i have no ill will toward any owner of any cobalt. my ill will is toward gm. why on earth do you offer so many varrients of the SS. SS is supposed to be the top of the line. what ever top of the line motor combo package you want to put on it, do it and badge it as a SS and leave it at that. you wanna make 3 other kinds, call em something other than a SS. ltz, ls, lt, whatever you want, but not an SS. they never had 3 differnet z24 combos did they? and theres only one ZO6, not 3. thats my only concern or gripe. on a footnote, the 2.2 and the 2.4 have the only thing we can not add to our 2.0......displacement!
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[QUOTE=love my SS]
GM has always offered 2 SS versions, and will continue to do so... why? because it helps them sell more cars... the new SS line (imo) is by far one of the best gm has had in a while..you cant deny them that.....anything to help the general stay in business and make us better cars is a good thing.
now back to the topic... i really think we as a small community should all stick together and not bash each others cars, specially because one is faster or what not... the 2.2 is a great engine, i had it in my 04 cav and i loved it... it can hold its own in certain cituations, but so can the 2.4 and the 2.0L.. lets just support each other and stop all this crap about the 2.4, 2.0l being faster than the 2.2... because as its been said before, there is always someone out there that is gonna be faster than you..so when you see a 2.2 or a 2.4 on the road.. dont be an A-hole and show off, just give us some props...we already know your faster than us
Originally Posted by dnbguy86
Here recently, it seems as most people with 2.0L Supercharged cobalts are talking down on us 2.2L guys. It kinda gets on my nerves when they do this because well pretty much the 2.0L SS/ 2.4SS are variants of the 2.2L ecotec.
well, i have no ill will toward any owner of any cobalt. my ill will is toward gm. why on earth do you offer so many varrients of the SS. SS is supposed to be the top of the line. what ever top of the line motor combo package you want to put on it, do it and badge it as a SS and leave it at that. you wanna make 3 other kinds, call em something other than a SS. ltz, ls, lt, whatever you want, but not an SS. they never had 3 differnet z24 combos did they? and theres only one ZO6, not 3. thats my only concern or gripe. on a footnote, the 2.2 and the 2.4 have the only thing we can not add to our 2.0......displacement!
well, i have no ill will toward any owner of any cobalt. my ill will is toward gm. why on earth do you offer so many varrients of the SS. SS is supposed to be the top of the line. what ever top of the line motor combo package you want to put on it, do it and badge it as a SS and leave it at that. you wanna make 3 other kinds, call em something other than a SS. ltz, ls, lt, whatever you want, but not an SS. they never had 3 differnet z24 combos did they? and theres only one ZO6, not 3. thats my only concern or gripe. on a footnote, the 2.2 and the 2.4 have the only thing we can not add to our 2.0......displacement!
now back to the topic... i really think we as a small community should all stick together and not bash each others cars, specially because one is faster or what not... the 2.2 is a great engine, i had it in my 04 cav and i loved it... it can hold its own in certain cituations, but so can the 2.4 and the 2.0L.. lets just support each other and stop all this crap about the 2.4, 2.0l being faster than the 2.2... because as its been said before, there is always someone out there that is gonna be faster than you..so when you see a 2.2 or a 2.4 on the road.. dont be an A-hole and show off, just give us some props...we already know your faster than us
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
I must say, where you placed your ecotech sticker is very Honda-ish! Looks alright.
Thats been gone since like a week after I put it on.... its off... just the fujita and FYC stickers on there.
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Talkin' Smack is supposed to be part of the fun. You have to be able to take as well as you can dish it. And I am waiting, oh so patiently, for the day I can pull up to an SS, hell, any stock V-8 car for that matter, and wave to them in my rear view!
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YEA they are all the same car ( i own 2.2 and 2.0 ss/sc) andi purchased the 2.2 for the economy and the ss/sc to have fun with. My previous car was a 2000 z28 camaro and after driving that and thr ss/sc, it seems like the 2.2 has absolutely no power. But, thats not what i bought the car for, i bought it to get good mileage and take me from point a to b and it does a great job at that.
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The same goes on at other club sites too. I was in the Pontiac site for a few years and you have the GT people, non supercharged and then the GTP guys with the SC's. Only difference between them and here is I believe it's a much younger crowd here and some don't know that their mouths are leaving the line before the lights go green. I had an ls before my ss/sc now and felt sort of intimadated at times before but that didn't influence me into getting out of one model into another. Who cares if it's an ss ls lt xx or whatever we're all in the same family. I was reading something the other day about the serious drag racers such as the Gardellas and so and they were saying their cars were 2.2 engines putting out 1000-1200 horsepower. Don't know if their 2.2 is the same block as our 2.2's .
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Originally Posted by fljohnboy
The same goes on at other club sites too. I was in the Pontiac site for a few years and you have the GT people, non supercharged and then the GTP guys with the SC's. Only difference between them and here is I believe it's a much younger crowd here and some don't know that their mouths are leaving the line before the lights go green. I had an ls before my ss/sc now and felt sort of intimadated at times before but that didn't influence me into getting out of one model into another. Who cares if it's an ss ls lt xx or whatever we're all in the same family. I was reading something the other day about the serious drag racers such as the Gardellas and so and they were saying their cars were 2.2 engines putting out 1000-1200 horsepower. Don't know if their 2.2 is the same block as our 2.2's .
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I got a ss/sc for more reasons that the hp number...I love the looks, I love the uniqueness, and I love the interior I get standard. The supercharger is nice, and yea I whip through the streets nice, but the overall package is what I was going after. And by the way, I love my wing! And in my defense, if I put $2000 in my car, it's going to be quite hard to put me in your rearview mirror.