82chris1

I plan on doin the lsj swap , what do you think , I got everything to do it for $1800

redcobalt07

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Yeah that ain't happening for $1800. What exactly did you get for $1800?

82chris1

96 000 lsj motor , PCM , ecm , all tranny mounts and motor mounts , all wiring harness , inter cooler

IonNinja

do it

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

Be better off with a boost kit and internals, or a hybrid build with boost. Lsj swap just isn't all bolts and labor.

82chris1

Cheaper then zzp's supercharger kit lol

redcobalt07

iTrader: (18)

Right now, uninstalled it is. What transmission are you going to use?

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

I will agree to that. It's the pcm and whatnot that I think would be an issue with compatibility, but I'll let someone else with more knowledge tackle that inquiry.

82chris1

So your saying it's not worth doin the swap , better to do the zzp supercharge kit ?

redcobalt07

iTrader: (18)

That's exactly what we are saying.

82chris1

Do you think it will be faster that way also , I think the stage 2 comes with the 3.1 pulley

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

Their kit would be less headache, however the lsj head would be a nice compliment to a hybrid build. You max 250hp on stock internals of the l61. Also, a tune file would have to me made since nobody really supports the l61 Pcm. I'm in the infancy of my build myself and things may have changed.

82chris1

Yeah the kit is 2700$ plus tax then you gotta to go to zzp's for the tune which is around 300

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

Could always build it yourself and trailer it to their shop.

08baltls

iTrader: (3)

I SC'd my L61 for about $3k after all was said and done and my car is faster than a lightly modded LSJ. I'm at about 240whp on stock internals. Its so much easier than trying an LSJ swap. As said, a hybrid build would be cool though.

82chris1

Well do you relcommed everything being new ?

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

Isn't necessary. Used parts can help a bottom line with budget builds. As long as the parts don't look like they went through a garbage disposal you should be good.

southal cobalt

iTrader: (3)

if you have the intake manifold, blower, injectors and whatever little odds and ends, just pick up the rest and boost what youve got and part out the rest of the motor

if you have a pre 07, tuning w/ hpt is impossible

08baltls

iTrader: (3)

Yeah, if you've got the LSJ with all of the supercharger parts, salvage them off the motor. You could salvage the rods from the LSJ as they are semi forged, but you would have to get custom pistons. You dont have to buy new, as said, but really all you need to do is forge the bottom end and upgrade the clutch on the L61 to make some pretty decent power. Should remain reliable to 300hp at that point.

82chris1

Well don't you need the customs parts from zzp to make it work ? Or basically everything is on the lsj motor?

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

Lsj is 6 rib belt and l61 is 5. Unless you swap all accessories the belt will be needed. Also I believe they have a custom pulley with the kit that accommodates this belt issue.

08baltls

iTrader: (3)

No, you dont need the custom parts to make it work. Really the only custom part from ZZP for the 2.2 is the idler pulley that uses a single sided 5 rib belt. If you use the LSJ parts, you can take a stock length double sided 6 rib and carefully cut a rib off cause you'll have hell trying to find a double sided 5 rib in the correct length. Ask me how I know. lol. I'm told that you can swap the LSJ alternator and crank pulley and then just use a standard 6 rib belt. But on a 3.1 pulley with an L61 crank pulley, the stock length belt damn near maxes out the tensioner assembly because the L61 crank pulley is a bit larger in diameter than the LSJ. But yeah, really all the parts you'll need, minus internals and clutch are right there on the LSJ motor.

But you could even part out the LSJ motor when your done salvaging parts off, and make part of your money back.

82chris1

So buying this lsj motor for 1800 would be good then , because I can just take all the parts I need off there , that's what I'm understanding

Xmetalhead2003X

iTrader: (3)

Yeah you can swap external parts and the blower take off kit but things get different beyond that.

08baltls

iTrader: (3)

Yeah. I ended up paying about $2000 for all the parts I needed, then the tune. Dont forget that you'll still have to get an AFR and boost gauge, heater hose, plugs, probably change the supercharger oil, coolant, heat exchanger, and other small odds and ends, but once you part out the motor or sell it outright, you shouldnt have much other out of pocket costs.