Ls S/c
#27
Senior Member
Last edited by JohnnySasakiMGS; 02-08-2007 at 06:51 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#28
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: 06-10-06
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That would be cool.... pay to have them put it on, they would give you a rental... Beat the living **** out of the rental car for a few days. Then go get your car back when the mechanic calls and says that they couldn't get the car to run properly with the supercharger installed.
#31
I'm old school
Despite the pointless bickering being had here by our members, I would like to address the thread authors concerns, which is what the rest of you should be doing.
The L61 engines in the 2007 model year use the E37 Engine-only control module. Its a 32-bit processor and is used in other model GM cars besides the Cobalt. Not the J-bodies. They used a P11, which was a 16-bit powertrain controller. The E37 is supported by HP Tuners software, but not officially yet. Its support comes from the other GM cars that have the same ECM.
The supercharger kit for the J-bodies will NOT fit the Cobalt. The GMPP stage 2 kit for the LSJ will NOT fit that.
Unfortunately, what you are proposing will NOT work. There is no kit that will just bolt on. The mechanic you spoke with is mistaken.
However, you do have an ECM that is capable of being tuned and modified. So with a custom forced induction setup, you would be able to make it work. Just not with the GMPP supercharger kit.
The L61 engines in the 2007 model year use the E37 Engine-only control module. Its a 32-bit processor and is used in other model GM cars besides the Cobalt. Not the J-bodies. They used a P11, which was a 16-bit powertrain controller. The E37 is supported by HP Tuners software, but not officially yet. Its support comes from the other GM cars that have the same ECM.
The supercharger kit for the J-bodies will NOT fit the Cobalt. The GMPP stage 2 kit for the LSJ will NOT fit that.
Unfortunately, what you are proposing will NOT work. There is no kit that will just bolt on. The mechanic you spoke with is mistaken.
However, you do have an ECM that is capable of being tuned and modified. So with a custom forced induction setup, you would be able to make it work. Just not with the GMPP supercharger kit.
#32
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Boost gauge: I know it goes something like, "Boost, it gets you laid." Tell me, when is the last time you got laid just because of your car?
Supercharged: Just one more thing to break
Better pistons: I would hope so if you had to push boost
Better brakes: More power to the wheels=more force to stop.
Better rods: Once again, I'd hope so if you had boost
Supercharged: Just one more thing to break
Better pistons: I would hope so if you had to push boost
Better brakes: More power to the wheels=more force to stop.
Better rods: Once again, I'd hope so if you had boost
Better transmission: really now? I'm hearing many a horror story about the transmissions having gears going out.
Better clutch: Once again many stories that suggest differently.
Better axles: I've not read of one LS YET that has snapped an axle, but I may have missed a thread on that so don't quote me.
Better clutch: Once again many stories that suggest differently.
Better axles: I've not read of one LS YET that has snapped an axle, but I may have missed a thread on that so don't quote me.
So all in all your post has no merit.
::edit:: Bodykit: I'm sorry, but I LOVE the sleeper look. Bodykits just **** me off.
I agree with you there. I'd love to come up to someone and have them thinking I've got nothing, and then see the look on their face as I pass them.
To the original poster,
Like it's been said above, it probably won't work. I would recommend going ahead and getting either a custom turbo setup, or wait for a s/c kit to be released.
I was following the 2.2 Turbo thread for awhile. I haven't read it in quite awhile, so i don't know if they guy ever got it dyno'd, But I think it's work checking into. Or, if you do have HPT support on the 07's, go ahead and pick it up. It's worth the $650 or whatever it is. BUT MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMPATIBLE.
After that, if your able to play around with HPT or have a good tuner near you, it might be a lot cheaper to piece together a turbo kit. One of the S/C guys around here is piecing one together. He's been researching and asking a lot of questions for the better part of the last year and he has yet to even buy anything. He's picked out the turbo, but there is still a lot of research for him to do.
Adam made a great thread on here about piecing together a turbo kit. I'll see if I can find it.
And if you want the whine of a s/c, start researching now, and don't do anything until you know yourself what will work well and what won't.
#33
New Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 01-21-07
Location: atco
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Despite the pointless bickering being had here by our members, I would like to address the thread authors concerns, which is what the rest of you should be doing.
The L61 engines in the 2007 model year use the E37 Engine-only control module. Its a 32-bit processor and is used in other model GM cars besides the Cobalt. Not the J-bodies. They used a P11, which was a 16-bit powertrain controller. The E37 is supported by HP Tuners software, but not officially yet. Its support comes from the other GM cars that have the same ECM.
The supercharger kit for the J-bodies will NOT fit the Cobalt. The GMPP stage 2 kit for the LSJ will NOT fit that.
Unfortunately, what you are proposing will NOT work. There is no kit that will just bolt on. The mechanic you spoke with is mistaken.
However, you do have an ECM that is capable of being tuned and modified. So with a custom forced induction setup, you would be able to make it work. Just not with the GMPP supercharger kit.
The L61 engines in the 2007 model year use the E37 Engine-only control module. Its a 32-bit processor and is used in other model GM cars besides the Cobalt. Not the J-bodies. They used a P11, which was a 16-bit powertrain controller. The E37 is supported by HP Tuners software, but not officially yet. Its support comes from the other GM cars that have the same ECM.
The supercharger kit for the J-bodies will NOT fit the Cobalt. The GMPP stage 2 kit for the LSJ will NOT fit that.
Unfortunately, what you are proposing will NOT work. There is no kit that will just bolt on. The mechanic you spoke with is mistaken.
However, you do have an ECM that is capable of being tuned and modified. So with a custom forced induction setup, you would be able to make it work. Just not with the GMPP supercharger kit.
#34
I'm old school
You don't even have to do that. Your stock L61 engine can safely handle 250 HP without modification. Most stage 2 kits will work fine with that. Save your money.
#35
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Found it
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/how-build-your-own-ecotec-turbo-kit-43463/
Look through some of the threads NJHK has started. There is ALOT of good info if you read what he says. Well, just avoid the threads about Buttseckz
For a good read as well, head here
http://www.year2032.com/ecotec.htm
It's all the breaking points and how they reached them.
I love the fact that they just sprayed Nitrous until something broke. Replaced that part, and kept going until something else broke.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/how-build-your-own-ecotec-turbo-kit-43463/
Look through some of the threads NJHK has started. There is ALOT of good info if you read what he says. Well, just avoid the threads about Buttseckz
For a good read as well, head here
http://www.year2032.com/ecotec.htm
It's all the breaking points and how they reached them.
I love the fact that they just sprayed Nitrous until something broke. Replaced that part, and kept going until something else broke.
Last edited by NGalaxyTimmyo; 02-09-2007 at 12:55 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#36
New Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 01-21-07
Location: atco
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i kno that already i just want to build it up cuz knowing me after riding with my friend and his gst thats has 400 hp. (just got it dynoed ill post up that when he scans it n sends it to me.) im gonna want to b able to keep up with him.
#38
hmmm.... It will require abit more work then you or the GM tech might think, but I believe the 07 PCM's were changed and IIRC, you can tune them. If you can, then the tuning is possible, you will also need a intake manifold off a ss/sc or one simlar, might have to change some pulleys on your belt system, change your intake, upgrade your fuel injectors etc.....did they say how much it will cost??
IMO, I would go with either the procharger or a turbo.....
that is if the 07 2.2s can be tuned(I am not 100%, but pretty sure I read somewhere saying they will be tunable)
IMO, I would go with either the procharger or a turbo.....
that is if the 07 2.2s can be tuned(I am not 100%, but pretty sure I read somewhere saying they will be tunable)
#39
#42
#43
Nope, SC sits on an intake manifold........
See link for picture of gasket -- it wont fit the 2.2L throttlebody opening.
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1656C137.aspx
See link for picture of gasket -- it wont fit the 2.2L throttlebody opening.
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1656C137.aspx
Last edited by Red07SSNA; 02-09-2007 at 09:58 AM. Reason: link
#44
The s/c is a roots type blower that is mounted on the intake/water-air intercooler, the throttle body is mounted by the inlet of the s/c....
t-body>s/c>intake manifold>engine
t-body>s/c>intake manifold>engine
#46
If he was to start anywhere doing the GM thing he would have to buy the GM Cavalier SC upgrade and go from there. It has all the pieces to do a Cav 2.2, just no tuning. Then maybe, just maybe the S/C flash would work...
#47
Senior Member
ok i would like to say this i have all parts to SC a 2.2 LS even the bolts and heres a pic of every thing it takes to put it on except tunning. ow yea im useing the stock TB on the SC too with a home made plate. i dont mind blowing my engine up in the name of "MY SCIENCE" i have anouther engine.
#48
ok so here it goes. i have offically decided that im going to supercharge my LS with the SS supercharger. one of the mechanics at my local chevy dealer and they said it'll work. id just have to get the stage 2 kit with it 2 ensure it runs properly so i ordered it. and im waitn for it to come
#49
IIRC the 2.2 cavy/sunfire s/c kit doesnt work on the 2.2 cobalts, I believe it was talked about in another thread. I think it was because of fitment and other issues, it will bolt on but I dont think it will fit properlly.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post