my supercharger build
#1
my supercharger build
well the time has finally came last time i THOUGHT i would attempt this i didnt know much at all about the difference between sc and tc rather than which i wanted to do. as for now i only have a very few amount of parts from the list but i do have questions.
so far here is my list let me know if i left out anything
M62 Supercharger
-3.06 or 2.9” GM STAGE 2 PULLEY/HUB
-AEM WIDEBAND
-LSJ Throttle Body
-LSJ Intake Manifold
-Stage 2 Belt (One rib cut off)
-42 Injectors w/new harness
-Intake Manifold-SC Gasket
-TB-SC Gasket
-TB Hard Vac Hose
-Glowshift boost gauge
-LSJ INTAKE
-H/E Pump Bracket
-LSJ Lower Intake Manifold Brace
-OTTP Heat Exchanger
-LSJ Belt Tensioner
-LSJ Idler Pulley
-LSJ Alternator Bracket (PN 12584365)
-LSJ Washer Reservoir (PN 22729469)
-LSJ 1 Bar MAP Sensor or 2?
-LSJ Brake Booster Hose
-A-Pillar Gauge Pod (2 or 3 pods)
-Extra Coolant for Engine (1 Gal Prestone 50/50 Dexcool, 1 Bottle of Water Wetter)
-Coolant for H/E Circuit (1 Gal Prestone 50/50 Dexcool)
-LSJ Upper Radiator Hose (PN 15247280)
-12' of ¾” Heater Hose
-Intake Manifold-Head Gasket
-H/E Bracket Insulator (PN 12594387)
-H/E Pump Connector
-LSJ Throttle Body Connector (8-Pin)
-By-pass Elbow Hose (Used ¼” Vacuum Hose)
-Vac hose for Valve cover to air intake (Cannot remember size)
-Multiple 90° Bends for ¾” Heater Hose (Use as needed)
-Multiple Straight extensions for ¾” Heater Hose (Use as needed)
-Washer Hose + “butt connectors”
-Hose Clamps
-Trifecta Tune "retune in my case"
My list of bolts :
• GM Bolts Needed
- 11516342 – LSJ Intake Manifold Mount To Block Bolts -(M8 X 1.25 x 60) (Qty 2)
- 11589214 – LSJ Supercharger to Intake Manifold Bolts (4)
- 11900248 – LSJ TB To SC Bolts (4)
• Standard Bolts Needed (Not GM)
- LSJ 1 Bar MAP To Intake Manifold M6 x 1.0 x 25 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Intake Manifold Mount Bracket To Intake Manifold M10 X 1.50 x 50 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Rear IC Pump Bracket To Intake Manifold Mount M8 X 1.25 X 25 –
- LSJ Front IC Pump Bracket To Rear IC Pump Bracket M8 X 1.25 X 35 – (Qty 2)
- LSJ Idler Pulley To Block M10 X 1.50 x 75 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Idler Pulley To Alternator Bracket M8 x 1.25 X 25 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Intake Manifold To Block M6 x 1.0 X 75 (Qty 2)
- LSJ Alternator Bracket To Block M8 X 1.25 X 130 (Qty 3)
- LSJ SC Bypass Valve To SC M8 X 1.25 X 20 (Qty 2)
- LSJ Lower Tensioner To Bracket M8 x 1.25 x 35
- LSJ Upper Tensioner To Bracket M8 X 1.25 x 40… not standard bolt though. Has to be metric hex socket bolt.
- LSJ Intake Manifold Bolts M6 X 1.00 x 25 (Qty 4)
now for the question that i have that im confused about.
1. where can i get the right spark plugs?
2. will the lsj H/E work untill i can get a bigger and better one such as zzp?
3. injector harness? iv yet to check out others how to's but how is this done do i need to cut the lsj harness?
4.. which option is best?
option b?
dual pass without option b and with a 2nd H/E?
dual pass with option b and 2nd H/E?
5. map sensor - heard so much about you needing a 2 but on alot of the list iv seen a 1? so which is it.? some of these how to's are confusing
6. do i need to get a better header/dp and catbak? eventually i will but for now?
7. should i get a tranny cooler since im an auto?
8. should i use 2.9 pulley with 42lb injectors? i want this to remain as safe as possible someone told me 3.06 pulley is good enough with my motor
thanks for looking and any info and help threw out this will be really appreciated. im hoping to have all the parts before the end of the year only bc i now live on my own and to every1 else that does knows how hard it can be to do mods and pay bills lol any1 with parts let me know thanks
so far here is my list let me know if i left out anything
M62 Supercharger
-3.06 or 2.9” GM STAGE 2 PULLEY/HUB
-AEM WIDEBAND
-LSJ Throttle Body
-LSJ Intake Manifold
-Stage 2 Belt (One rib cut off)
-42 Injectors w/new harness
-Intake Manifold-SC Gasket
-TB-SC Gasket
-TB Hard Vac Hose
-Glowshift boost gauge
-LSJ INTAKE
-H/E Pump Bracket
-LSJ Lower Intake Manifold Brace
-OTTP Heat Exchanger
-LSJ Belt Tensioner
-LSJ Idler Pulley
-LSJ Alternator Bracket (PN 12584365)
-LSJ Washer Reservoir (PN 22729469)
-LSJ 1 Bar MAP Sensor or 2?
-LSJ Brake Booster Hose
-A-Pillar Gauge Pod (2 or 3 pods)
-Extra Coolant for Engine (1 Gal Prestone 50/50 Dexcool, 1 Bottle of Water Wetter)
-Coolant for H/E Circuit (1 Gal Prestone 50/50 Dexcool)
-LSJ Upper Radiator Hose (PN 15247280)
-12' of ¾” Heater Hose
-Intake Manifold-Head Gasket
-H/E Bracket Insulator (PN 12594387)
-H/E Pump Connector
-LSJ Throttle Body Connector (8-Pin)
-By-pass Elbow Hose (Used ¼” Vacuum Hose)
-Vac hose for Valve cover to air intake (Cannot remember size)
-Multiple 90° Bends for ¾” Heater Hose (Use as needed)
-Multiple Straight extensions for ¾” Heater Hose (Use as needed)
-Washer Hose + “butt connectors”
-Hose Clamps
-Trifecta Tune "retune in my case"
My list of bolts :
• GM Bolts Needed
- 11516342 – LSJ Intake Manifold Mount To Block Bolts -(M8 X 1.25 x 60) (Qty 2)
- 11589214 – LSJ Supercharger to Intake Manifold Bolts (4)
- 11900248 – LSJ TB To SC Bolts (4)
• Standard Bolts Needed (Not GM)
- LSJ 1 Bar MAP To Intake Manifold M6 x 1.0 x 25 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Intake Manifold Mount Bracket To Intake Manifold M10 X 1.50 x 50 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Rear IC Pump Bracket To Intake Manifold Mount M8 X 1.25 X 25 –
- LSJ Front IC Pump Bracket To Rear IC Pump Bracket M8 X 1.25 X 35 – (Qty 2)
- LSJ Idler Pulley To Block M10 X 1.50 x 75 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Idler Pulley To Alternator Bracket M8 x 1.25 X 25 (Qty 1)
- LSJ Intake Manifold To Block M6 x 1.0 X 75 (Qty 2)
- LSJ Alternator Bracket To Block M8 X 1.25 X 130 (Qty 3)
- LSJ SC Bypass Valve To SC M8 X 1.25 X 20 (Qty 2)
- LSJ Lower Tensioner To Bracket M8 x 1.25 x 35
- LSJ Upper Tensioner To Bracket M8 X 1.25 x 40… not standard bolt though. Has to be metric hex socket bolt.
- LSJ Intake Manifold Bolts M6 X 1.00 x 25 (Qty 4)
now for the question that i have that im confused about.
1. where can i get the right spark plugs?
2. will the lsj H/E work untill i can get a bigger and better one such as zzp?
3. injector harness? iv yet to check out others how to's but how is this done do i need to cut the lsj harness?
4.. which option is best?
option b?
dual pass without option b and with a 2nd H/E?
dual pass with option b and 2nd H/E?
5. map sensor - heard so much about you needing a 2 but on alot of the list iv seen a 1? so which is it.? some of these how to's are confusing
6. do i need to get a better header/dp and catbak? eventually i will but for now?
7. should i get a tranny cooler since im an auto?
8. should i use 2.9 pulley with 42lb injectors? i want this to remain as safe as possible someone told me 3.06 pulley is good enough with my motor
thanks for looking and any info and help threw out this will be really appreciated. im hoping to have all the parts before the end of the year only bc i now live on my own and to every1 else that does knows how hard it can be to do mods and pay bills lol any1 with parts let me know thanks
#2
getting a downpipe and exhaust would help alot after your boosted.
you can get NGK spark plugs from zzp
you need to cut the injectors connectors from the lsj harness and switch them out with your stock harness.
I will be going supercharged in acouple of months two but i dont think i will be getting a tranny cooler.
dual pass with option b and 2nd H/e would be the best,but you can still be good if you just get a second H/e .
you can get NGK spark plugs from zzp
you need to cut the injectors connectors from the lsj harness and switch them out with your stock harness.
I will be going supercharged in acouple of months two but i dont think i will be getting a tranny cooler.
dual pass with option b and 2nd H/e would be the best,but you can still be good if you just get a second H/e .
#3
Any Autolite spark plug that list for the 2.2L is 2 steps colder.I am running the Autolite Iridium XP.Anyone know of a copper plug thats meant for the 2.2L?(25mm reach,taper seat,2 steps colder)
Edit:I am a 2.2L on a 2.9 inch pulley just to clarify
Edit:I am a 2.2L on a 2.9 inch pulley just to clarify
#7
I HIGHLY sugest pulley boys Chevy Cobalt SS Belt Tension Relief Tool
Chevy Cobalt SS Belt Tension Relief Tool
(its worth having)
And if you need a set of LSJ injector clips you can get them here
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/part...gtails-241578/
good luck with your build!
Chevy Cobalt SS Belt Tension Relief Tool
(its worth having)
And if you need a set of LSJ injector clips you can get them here
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/part...gtails-241578/
good luck with your build!
#9
getting a downpipe and exhaust would help alot after your boosted.
you can get NGK spark plugs from zzp
you need to cut the injectors connectors from the lsj harness and switch them out with your stock harness.
I will be going supercharged in acouple of months two but i dont think i will be getting a tranny cooler.
dual pass with option b and 2nd H/e would be the best,but you can still be good if you just get a second H/e .
you can get NGK spark plugs from zzp
you need to cut the injectors connectors from the lsj harness and switch them out with your stock harness.
I will be going supercharged in acouple of months two but i dont think i will be getting a tranny cooler.
dual pass with option b and 2nd H/e would be the best,but you can still be good if you just get a second H/e .
iv heard alot bout the zzp spark plugs so ill prolly be getting them. as for now im looks for parts seperate rather than a whole kit hopefully start this at the end of the year but if the price is right then of course im willin to buy now.
yeah the lsj injectors just to need be cut and two different wires need to be switch im pretty sure thats how it was done.
#10
btw any1 who is boosted thats a 2.2 plz post up what else you have done performance wise to the car iv noticed that our cars can only handle like 250 hp without buildin the motor more so wouldnt you reach that supercharging the car and the tune? if any1 has a dyno sheet that would be awesome.
also if you have a list of the cost of the sc kit that would be great to so i can make sure im gettin good deals.
also if you have a list of the cost of the sc kit that would be great to so i can make sure im gettin good deals.
#11
btw any1 who is boosted thats a 2.2 plz post up what else you have done performance wise to the car iv noticed that our cars can only handle like 250 hp without buildin the motor more so wouldnt you reach that supercharging the car and the tune? if any1 has a dyno sheet that would be awesome.
also if you have a list of the cost of the sc kit that would be great to so i can make sure im gettin good deals.
also if you have a list of the cost of the sc kit that would be great to so i can make sure im gettin good deals.
#12
yeah my kit will def. be way cheaper than that lol ill make sure of it. i mean ill get the parts at the right price or ill wait is all. yeah u may wanna make sure ur hp isnt close to that cause once u go over ull start havin major problems so iv heard. thats why i wanna know what other ppl have done and how much hp there puttin out at those mods. so i know exactly what can be done thats why i think ill wait to do bolt ons after so i know how much hp i have left to work with
#14
yeah my kit will def. be way cheaper than that lol ill make sure of it. i mean ill get the parts at the right price or ill wait is all. yeah u may wanna make sure ur hp isnt close to that cause once u go over ull start havin major problems so iv heard. thats why i wanna know what other ppl have done and how much hp there puttin out at those mods. so i know exactly what can be done thats why i think ill wait to do bolt ons after so i know how much hp i have left to work with
#16
so you have the full bolt ons with sc and hes jus sc'd at 240 hp? is ur motor built at all or else arnt u worried bout sumthin blowing
my patience actually suck lol i have the money but i also have other bills i should worry bout first
my patience actually suck lol i have the money but i also have other bills i should worry bout first
Last edited by heathkidder; 02-17-2011 at 02:39 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#17
btw since im pretty new at this are there any parts i should be concered about when i buy it i know most of the lil things will be new bolts and gaskets but how can i tell if the m62 has been abused or the intake mani and such any1 have any info about that thanks
#18
No he's fully bolted on as well.Everytime I go WOT I worry about it blowin haha.I usually drive it nice unless I need to get on it.Im on stock internals.....for now.Him being auto and me 5 speed i SHOULD have a little more power to the wheels.Unless its my gear ratio's giving me the advantage.
#19
iv heard that auto is better with this m62 though than 5 speed idk if thats true or not but i think ill do the build and get dynoed and if im close then im not gonna do any bolt ons unless i build the motor which i dont plan to do unless its a few years down the road