New GM perf parts coming
06-03-2007, 09:23 PM
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well I assure you that GM hasnt sold literally one million in the USA.. more like in the hundred thousands and only the teenagers plan on modding them..
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06-03-2007, 09:28 PM
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DING DING This thread has serious gone downhill.
Screw GM I rather not go a car manufacturer ways for modding. I like my way and thats lots of choices. We should be more worried about getting aftermarket companies getting us instead of the car manufacturer.
And I do not think GM will stop 2.2L production. They first introduced the engine in the 2000 Saturn line-up and it's 2007 and they are still producing them. Hmm...sounds like they are making a good bit of money off this engine. Normally a average engine line nowadays lasts what 2-3 years without having something changed to where nothing from the other engines work.
For example: 2000 Nissan Sentra came with the 1.8L in the econimical class like our cobalts. In 2004 they changed over a good bit of design to force nothing to be swappable. GM has done what? Maybe some tuning differences, but everything else is virtually the same? Someone put in their input if they have good knowledge of this.
btw- I am no damn teenager. I'm 21 :p
Screw GM I rather not go a car manufacturer ways for modding. I like my way and thats lots of choices. We should be more worried about getting aftermarket companies getting us instead of the car manufacturer.
And I do not think GM will stop 2.2L production. They first introduced the engine in the 2000 Saturn line-up and it's 2007 and they are still producing them. Hmm...sounds like they are making a good bit of money off this engine. Normally a average engine line nowadays lasts what 2-3 years without having something changed to where nothing from the other engines work.
For example: 2000 Nissan Sentra came with the 1.8L in the econimical class like our cobalts. In 2004 they changed over a good bit of design to force nothing to be swappable. GM has done what? Maybe some tuning differences, but everything else is virtually the same? Someone put in their input if they have good knowledge of this.
btw- I am no damn teenager. I'm 21 :p
06-04-2007, 12:03 PM
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06-04-2007, 02:22 PM
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The Saab design was originally an all steel, 2.0L turbo charged engine. They still make it in fact, the LK9. When GM acquired Saab, they took the design and made it all aluminum using the lost foam casting process, and changed the demensions to get 2.2L. Otherwise it's pretty much the same block. It even still has the turbo oil return boss cast into the block.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
06-04-2007, 02:33 PM
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The Saab design was originally an all steel, 2.0L turbo charged engine. They still make it in fact, the LK9. When GM acquired Saab, they took the design and made it all aluminum using the lost foam casting process, and changed the demensions to get 2.2L. Otherwise it's pretty much the same block. It even still has the turbo oil return boss cast into the block.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
06-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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The Saab design was originally an all steel, 2.0L turbo charged engine. They still make it in fact, the LK9. When GM acquired Saab, they took the design and made it all aluminum using the lost foam casting process, and changed the demensions to get 2.2L. Otherwise it's pretty much the same block. It even still has the turbo oil return boss cast into the block.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
Yep that is what makes or breaks a message forum. The members we can not just go on with ricers running this board or people who are not mechanically inclined. Or those who keep up with the GM annoucements, etc.
Takes a ton of people to keep a good forum going.
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06-04-2007, 06:04 PM
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The Ecotec name was adopted in 2000 for the new generation of Family II engines. The name was already used for the Opel Family 1 and Family 0 ranges. GM intends this new Ecotec to become its global 4-cylinder.
The Ecotec is a modern chain-driven DOHC 4-valve design with an aluminum block and head (L850), designed for displacements from 1.8 to 2.4 L. It was developed by an international team of engineers and technicians from Opel's International Technical Development Center in Rüsselsheim, Germany, GM Powertrain in Pontiac, Michigan, and Saab in Trollhättan, Sweden. Much of the development work on this project was carried out by Lotus Engineering,Hethel, United Kingdom. The engine uses aluminum pistons and cast iron cylinder liners. Vibration is reduced with twin balance shafts.
Ecotec 2.2, model L61 (or L42 for the CNG version). First appearing in the 2000 Saturn LS1, the L61 spread throughout North American GM products, displacing the Quad 4 and its descendents.
06-04-2007, 11:15 PM
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The Saab design was originally an all steel, 2.0L turbo charged engine. They still make it in fact, the LK9. When GM acquired Saab, they took the design and made it all aluminum using the lost foam casting process, and changed the demensions to get 2.2L. Otherwise it's pretty much the same block. It even still has the turbo oil return boss cast into the block.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
The 2007 L61 changes include COP, a new exhaust cam design, including the cam signal generator for the COP, and a redesigned head with new exhaust ports and mounting for the COP. Plus a 57x reluctor ring on the crank, also for the COP. The new valve cover is kindda ugly however.
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