Official: POI is DOA
07-01-2006, 01:44 AM
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Official: POI is DOA
Well I guess I can make the official announcement finally. As of 8:32 on Saturday, June 17, 2006 Project Orange Illusions is dead. Not officially sure what happened yet but I should know before the end of next week. The best guesses we have right now are 1) Snapped rod 2) Cracked piston 3) Spun the rod bearing. Got BIG plans for the car now. I only have one part in my hands so far, my new clutch, but as parts come in and progress is made I will continue to update this thread. Stay tuned for updates and other cool stuff.
Well now on to the pictures I've taken over the last two days....
This was the sign that something was wrong. Even my girlfriend knew when she saw them and she ain't a car person YET. This is the #3 cylinder.
#4 cylinder sparkplug.
Car on lift after 2 days of working to disconnect harnesses and other crap prepping for open heart surgery.
2.5 inch long ARP lug studs!
Motor coming out finally. We chose to pull it out the bottom after removing the subframe.
Motor sitting on the lift table.
Motor and transmission seperated.
Pressure plate and motor.
Flywheel contact side of the clutch disc. Still has life in it too.
Close-up of the contact surface. You can see signs of minor slippage but nothing amazingly unusual for a car running 300HP, 57000 miles and daily driven.
Pressure plate contact surface.
Flywheel contact surface.
First package of new parts. What could it be?
It's a SPEC Stage 3+ clutch with their lightweight option. Ordered the setup on WEDNESDAY and got it TODAY. Didn't even pay for faster shipping or anything. AMAZING SERVICE. The whole assembly weighs under 15lbs. Chose not to get their lightweight flywheel though because as you other turbo Eco guys know...first gear is hard enough to keep off the limiter with the stock flywheel. Don't need it going and kissing the limiter even faster.
So I've ordered over $2500 in parts in the last two days for Project Orange Illusions. Man the money goes out fast.
Parts include....Wiseco 8.9:1 compression .020 overbore pistons (Thanks Clayton), Eagle connecting rods (thanks Paco Loco), Innovate LM1 RPM kit and window mount, Level Zero Motorsports balance shaft delete kit, MSD DIS-2 Plus HO, MSD coils, MSD wires, Super 20G turbo from Hahn Racecraft, SPEC Stage 3+ clutch with their lightweight option (whole kit weighs about 15 pounds), Cometic .030 thickness headgasket, new exhaust gasket from SCE, Sparco Mugello steering wheel, Momo hub (thanks APlus!), 8 point rollcage from S&W Race Cars made from mild steel, and OF COURSE.....HP TUNERS!!! (Thanks Ron for convincing me LOL). I think that's the full list but if I remember anything else I bought I'll make sure and add it to this post.
Like I said I will have TONS of pictures and How-Tos as we go along with the rebuild.
One final picture of how the car is sitting right now.....
Well now on to the pictures I've taken over the last two days....
This was the sign that something was wrong. Even my girlfriend knew when she saw them and she ain't a car person YET. This is the #3 cylinder.
#4 cylinder sparkplug.
Car on lift after 2 days of working to disconnect harnesses and other crap prepping for open heart surgery.
2.5 inch long ARP lug studs!
Motor coming out finally. We chose to pull it out the bottom after removing the subframe.
Motor sitting on the lift table.
Motor and transmission seperated.
Pressure plate and motor.
Flywheel contact side of the clutch disc. Still has life in it too.
Close-up of the contact surface. You can see signs of minor slippage but nothing amazingly unusual for a car running 300HP, 57000 miles and daily driven.
Pressure plate contact surface.
Flywheel contact surface.
First package of new parts. What could it be?
It's a SPEC Stage 3+ clutch with their lightweight option. Ordered the setup on WEDNESDAY and got it TODAY. Didn't even pay for faster shipping or anything. AMAZING SERVICE. The whole assembly weighs under 15lbs. Chose not to get their lightweight flywheel though because as you other turbo Eco guys know...first gear is hard enough to keep off the limiter with the stock flywheel. Don't need it going and kissing the limiter even faster.
So I've ordered over $2500 in parts in the last two days for Project Orange Illusions. Man the money goes out fast.
Parts include....Wiseco 8.9:1 compression .020 overbore pistons (Thanks Clayton), Eagle connecting rods (thanks Paco Loco), Innovate LM1 RPM kit and window mount, Level Zero Motorsports balance shaft delete kit, MSD DIS-2 Plus HO, MSD coils, MSD wires, Super 20G turbo from Hahn Racecraft, SPEC Stage 3+ clutch with their lightweight option (whole kit weighs about 15 pounds), Cometic .030 thickness headgasket, new exhaust gasket from SCE, Sparco Mugello steering wheel, Momo hub (thanks APlus!), 8 point rollcage from S&W Race Cars made from mild steel, and OF COURSE.....HP TUNERS!!! (Thanks Ron for convincing me LOL). I think that's the full list but if I remember anything else I bought I'll make sure and add it to this post.
Like I said I will have TONS of pictures and How-Tos as we go along with the rebuild.
One final picture of how the car is sitting right now.....
07-05-2006, 12:35 AM
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Well instead of retyping the same post I just made on JBO I'll just link to that post....
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...34421&t=234421
I'll keep updating that link every day if I can.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...34421&t=234421
I'll keep updating that link every day if I can.
07-05-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth06LT
HP Tuners finally came oput with a turbo mod for our ecu?!?!? holy shnikes, I need to get their website.
If you get a turbo it's no problem. there are people who are going twin charged and doing pistons.
just thought you should know - HP tuners is 500 or 650 for the advanced version. you can tune three cars with that and buy more credits to tune others. you can email the tune between people to tune with and you can extract the GM stage 2 reflash from a car and use it as a base start point or copy to another car. It is a super tool.
07-05-2006, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
You guys are in the dark ages. HP Tuners for the LSJ has been out for some time. There is a 12.86 sec cobalt with intake, exhaust, 60lbs injectors, 2.5" pulley, HP tuned.
If you get a turbo it's no problem. there are people who are going twin charged and doing pistons.
just thought you should know - HP tuners is 500 or 650 for the advanced version. you can tune three cars with that and buy more credits to tune others. you can email the tune between people to tune with and you can extract the GM stage 2 reflash from a car and use it as a base start point or copy to another car. It is a super tool.
If you get a turbo it's no problem. there are people who are going twin charged and doing pistons.
just thought you should know - HP tuners is 500 or 650 for the advanced version. you can tune three cars with that and buy more credits to tune others. you can email the tune between people to tune with and you can extract the GM stage 2 reflash from a car and use it as a base start point or copy to another car. It is a super tool.
That includes the head, bottom end, trans, clutch, and axles.
07-05-2006, 10:07 PM
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*note to self not to do that
so how long was it running at unsafe amounts of boost before it went down? i've heard of guys running 10psi daily but never more than that.
so how long was it running at unsafe amounts of boost before it went down? i've heard of guys running 10psi daily but never more than that.
07-05-2006, 10:26 PM
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The car surived over a year at 10PSI+. It made it this far into the year at 12PSI+ every track day....which at the start of the season was almost every weekend, as proven by going to this link http://www.ryne.com/schedule.htm. That's my schedule for the year....as you can see...I gotta get the car running again ASAP.
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