slvrbalt

if anyone knows of any inexpensive and or free mods to do to a 2005 chevy cobalt ls sport coupe to make it lighter look better or give it more power let me know thanks

celicacobalt

shave the emblems

slvrbalt

its me dude

97cavie24ls

remove all that plastic crap under the hood , it adds weight , and makes the motor look nasty


losing weight = faster

R33P3R007

trade it in for a ss/sc

RedBaseBolt

Spray it.

mkulrey13

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Add leds to the cupholders. My HowTo: is in my sig. Enjoy!

celicacobalt

im a believer that the 2.2 motor has alot more potential than the 2.0 motor which is the reason i got the 2.2 over the ss when i could have got the ss, give it time and my point will prove itself

BlueSSupercharged

if it had a lot more potential they would have used it in the ss sc. The 2.2l is the same motor as the 2.0l but the 2.0l has better internal parts like the rods the crankshaft and a lot of other upgraded parts. So if you spend a couple grand to get better internal parts you basically have the 2.0l unless u go with racing parts.

CobaltBurst

celica you are right, it does have alot more potential then the 2.0 and there are more 2.2 on the market right now in cavy's etc. In the long run it will save you money on mods b/c there are more2.2's than the 2.0's so their will be more expensive for the 2.0's. Let them think they are fast until we blow by them with our turbo/superchared 2.2L

Halfcent

The LSJ engine has a destroked crankshaft. For those that don't know, that means the throws (the part the connecting rod actually connects to) are shorter, resulting in less movement of the piston inside the cylinder, and hence the smaller displacement (2.0 instead of 2.2l) then the L61 engine.

This could easily become a complicated physics lesson, but basically, the lever arm on the LSJ crankshaft is smaller, meaning you don't get as much torque delivered to the crankshaft by the piston. So that could be an argument for why the L61 has more potential.

Yes, the LSJ is all set up to safely produce around 400 HP without breaking anything in a stock motor. But to do that, you would have to remove the supercharger and replace it with a turbo, or wait and see what the twin charging possibilities can produce.

BlueSSupercharged

have you read the ecotec build book? to get to 400 with the 2.2L you repace the internal engine parts with better parts. so say you spend $3000 on those parts and put them in and another $3500 for a turbo kit. ill put half that amount in my ss sc and still have a faster car.

BlueSSupercharged

why would you have to replace the supercharger? i plan on keeping the supercharger and get the gm stage kits and when the aftermarket comes around shortly build my ss sc to around 350whp. im not saying i dont like turbos but i think the gm stage kits if they come out hopefully with more stage kits are going to be for the supercharger. why put a supercharger on the car stock only to change it to a turbo later.

slvrbalt

look i mean if u think about either or any car u get is going to have problems is gonna have something the other doesnt the meaning of getting a car to mod or build up is that u do what u want to it to best fit ur tastes whether it comes to looks and or power some prefer turbo some prefer super its all good

CobaltBurst

honestly who is looking for 400hp on a daily driver? not gonna happen easily with an ss either, i think your over confident in that engine...

BlueSSupercharged

whats wrong with a 400 hp daily driver? and it will be a lot easier and cheaper with an ss sc the the 2.2L. i am variy confident in the 2.0L. whats not to be confident about? Almost all the parts the 2.2L needs to get to 400 hp are already in the 2.0L.

Halfcent

Okay, we get it, you are in love with your motor! Your argument is fine, I'm not contradicting it. However, I can tell you for certain that GM will not produce stage kits that will get an SS anywhere close to 400 HP. You won't even get to 300 with that. The current press indicates 20 HP gains from each of the 2 planned stage upgrades right now. That would put you at about 250 HP. You still have a long way to go before you hit 300.

I didn't get an SS specifically because I wanted an Automatic Transmission. I have nothing against the engine. And yes, I have invested significantly in my L61 upgrading those engine internal parts. But I will be able to EASILY produce 400 HP, on an automatic transmission car, with parts that are already available. I have been able to get very involved in the actual taking apart and putting back together of my car, and it has been fun. And when I'm done, I know I have a powertrain that is rock solid, and I won't break anything.

You will have to wait for parts that will not even produce 300 HP. If you do ever get to that kind of power, you will then have to spend just as much money as I have upgrading your transmission. The GETRAG manual in a stock set up can't handle that kind of power.

Point being, more horsepower equals more dollars, which ever car you have. The SS just starts off at a higher number from the factory is all.

BlueSSupercharged

so the gm 272 concept cobalt thats puting out 272hp is that not close to 300hp. And how is there not going to be parts to get it over 300hp. This motor will have more parts then the 2.2 when the aftermarket comes around. this motor will build more power with less money.

Halfcent

Boy, defensive. Anyway, the 272, in addition to the pulley and injector upgrade, also uses a ram air intake and better exhaust. And what exactly are you basing your claim on that the LSJ will have more aftermarket support then the L61? The L61 has a 2 year head start and is already very supported. That support is going to grow right along side the LSJ.

CobaltBurst

Id think twice about that, the 2.2L market is much higher than the 2.0 , especially since there is already a 2.2 market...

In fact i test drove a 2.0L supercharged SS and a 2.4 SS and i am NOT impressed, its really not that fast... my cavy takes off faster in 2nd that that slow ass of a supercharged car, im hoping it was just a bad car b/c it sucked. 2.4 was unimpressive, im really glad i went with the 2.2 any turbo/supercharger with low boost on the 2.2 will woop both.

BlueSSupercharged

ive raced several cavaliers with the 2.4 and 2.2 and none could come even close. if i had to choose between the 2.2 and the 2.4 i would take the 2.4. it didnt take long for the srt4 aftermarket to pass the base neon and i bet it will be the same way for the ss sc. a 2.4 with low boost may keep up with or be a little faster than an ss sc but a 2.2 is going to need more than that. i have drivin a lot of 2.2 when they come in for service 2 door 4door auto 5-speed and having an ss sc its like going from a corvette to an aveo.

CobaltBurst

lol dodge is backed by mopar...... chevy??????? their own???? lol not going to happen man

BlueSSupercharged

im just tring to defend my ss sc against the people who are saying that my 2.2 is better and my 2.2 is going to be fastest. you have put alot of time and money in your car to make it fast but just bolting on a turbo is not going to do it alone for everyone else. why build a performance model if the base model is better. why build a srt4 if a base neon is better. there is a reason why companys build performance models. hear is a list of better features on the 2.0

A direct–mount oil cooler
Oil jets for piston cooling
Heavy–duty pistons
Strong connecting rods
Forged–steel crankshaft
Large oil sump
Sodium–filled exhaust valves for improved durability
A high–strength aluminum cylinder head

BlueSSupercharged

mopar and dodge are the same thing just like toyota and trd

CobaltBurst

exactly does chevy have a company like mopar and trd? NO