2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 06-16-2006, 05:48 PM
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Rear brake swap

DO any of the 2.2L trim levels have rear disc brakes? If not could the front disc setup be used to swap into the rear drums?
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No, they don't. and i wouldn't suggest you swap.

doing so is not as easy as you may think, besides needing new lines and the brakes themselves, you need new hub carriers, prolly rear hubs and bearings, i doubt the shocks would work as well, as they may have different mounting points.

all that is just on top of the issues you face making the valves supply the rear with enough fluid. and i don't think the ABS would work right after that.

honestly, drums are not that bad. they're reliable, don't wear nearly as much and the parking brake system is a WORLD simpler. a lot of people are kinda turned off by them because they don't look as cool and that when you open the drum, it's a lot of dirty brown springs. honestly though, they work better than you think at actually stopping the car.
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i doubt you could use the fronts but there are kits to swap the rears to discs but i think you need a 17 inch wheel

edit: i see you have a 17 already lol
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Originally Posted by Clmbngfrk18
i doubt you could use the fronts but there are kits to swap the rears to discs but i think you need a 17 inch wheel

edit: i see you have a 17 already lol
i didn't think that there might be a kit
Old 06-16-2006, 09:03 PM
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ive seen a kit on a couple sites no clue weather its out or not i found it back when i got the car almost a year ago i think its on gravana's site but im not 100% i have a link at home but im at work its also well over a grand for them
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I was trying to see if there was an easier way than buying an 1100$ kit to do it, as in going and scavenging off of a wrecked one.
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Originally Posted by kyyankee
I was trying to see if there was an easier way than buying an 1100$ kit to do it, as in going and scavenging off of a wrecked one.
No offense, but cheaping out on brakes is a BIG . Either buy the kit or don't do the conversion, as simple as that. As joeworkstoohard was trying to point out, it's not just a quick swap and woo I have rear discs. There's a lot more involved in it. So if you're not willing to do it right, don't do it at all.
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SSBC makes a rear disk conversion for us apparently but it aint cheap.

http://www.gravanatuning.com/applica...DRUM_VEHICLES_

Its too bad the SS/SC didn't have the 4x100 bolt pattern or that could have been a more cost effective option.
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Exactly, and if the SS's didn't have the odd ass lug pattern then the hubs could have been switched.
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would it be possible to say find an ss that was t-boned and somehow all the brakes were fine that you could swap the brakes hubs discs etc so instead of the 4-100 you would have 5-110 did that make sense al in all you would have ss brakes
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Originally Posted by Clmbngfrk18
would it be possible to say find an ss that was t-boned and somehow all the brakes were fine that you could swap the brakes hubs discs etc so instead of the 4-100 you would have 5-110 did that make sense al in all you would have ss brakes
Except by that time you're spending more than you would have if you would have just bought the conversion kit in the first place because now in addition to the cost of the components, you've now also got to buy new wheels and tires...
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another thing to keep in mind is that you will have unbalanced braking if you start switching out components on one end with the other. wouldnt want to swap out just the rears without doing something to the fronts to compensate for the fact that the rears now have a greater/lesser stopping power.
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Originally Posted by kyyankee
DO any of the 2.2L trim levels have rear disc brakes? If not could the front disc setup be used to swap into the rear drums?
no none offer it...only the big boy toys do...yea thats right the ss's...lol jk...u could do the swap..its possible ...only problem for most people is its gonna cost a shitload and prob isnt worth it IMO
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http://www.shop.com/op/~STAINLESS_ST...-prod-24837856

just use this
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Yeah....I'll get right on that.....
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*a little off topic* but does the 2.4L SS have rear discs? im sure they do i was jus curious.
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yes they do
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they have a kit for that but its 800 bucks
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and to do the rear you have to up front brakes too
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RSM Racing has a kit out thats about $900 I think...a little cheaper than the SSBC one.

EDIT: Heres the actual posting on RSMRacing.com

Rear 12" Disc Brake Conversion
Vented rotors, braided brakes lines and
carbon metallic pads. Rear uses stock
e-brake cable. Bolt-on install, comes complete
with all brackets, installs in less than 4
hours.For slotted or cross drilled options please add
$25.00 per rotor.P/N: BU1GAR-2005
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Who cares about your back brakes, just get good rotors up front.


Unless u're doing a lot of shows you don't need disk brakes in the rear.
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if you were gonna try find a wrecked SS...you would look into alero's also...would be the same amount of work, just more likely to find one, and would be cheaper
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I considered doing brakes on my project, but found out two problems that kept me from making the switch...

First, there would be no increase in stopping performance at all. A big brake kit will dissipate heat faster, but for street use and drag racing, the stockers are more then adequate. The greater heat dissipation would really only help in rally racing.

Second, you have to have a 17" minimum wheel size for the kits. To drag race, I'll going to want to use 15" steel wheels with slicks, and they just plain won't fit.
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