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Old 02-16-2009, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
sounds like the injector idle pulse width is out of wack if you can't find anythigne else wrong.. what injectors you have again 42s or 60s?

thats what happened to mine when i went back to NA

the stock tune didn't reload so it was trying to run the car on virtually no fuel but i could smell loads of fuel... it would crank and if i held the car floored it would hold but soon as i'd let off the car would die


Yeah injectors are the main cause for concern right now, they're 42's. I bet you one is not spraying.
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Originally Posted by Sentry
Yeah injectors are the main cause for concern right now, they're 42's. I bet you one is not spraying.
well good luck man.. thats why I used drop in injectors .. didnt want to mess with soldering my bed or anything
Old 02-16-2009, 11:00 AM
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If you had to use pigtales make sure the connections didn't come loses on any of the wires
Old 02-16-2009, 12:35 PM
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Hahaha, well I found the problem. None of the injectors are spraying. Which really threw me for a loop. I took the fuel rail out, and watched as I turned the ignition, and so much fuel built up that one of the injectors would shoot off the rail and fuel would go shooting out. I have no clue what would cause that. Surely it's not possible that they all would be bad?













Anyone see any problems that would cause something not to work right?
Old 02-16-2009, 01:24 PM
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u sodered them on...check all the connections, make sure they are all good, not some ghetto ****, i know i woudl of re pin'd before i tried to soder them together, make sure you sodered them on right, there should be one wire thats the same color in every injector, and one that isnt, make sure you have it all connection nice and good, if all else fails, you coudl take a tester, poke a hole in the wire after the soder and see if there is some sort of current after it
Old 02-16-2009, 01:38 PM
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check to see if u have a constant 12 volt + to the correct side. Then use a test light to check to see if they fire when they should, or use a noid light set if you have one.
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i would check the connections....on the injectors and make sure you didnt swap the positive with the negative
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I got it running, but it runs very rough. I'm going to work on it some more tomorrow, maybe even have a shop look at it.
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why not datalog it and send it to vince?
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I got it running, but it runs very rough. I'm going to work on it some more tomorrow, maybe even have a shop look at it.
Just curious, where did you get your injectors from, or better yet what did they come out of? I would check for injector pulse to all cylinders using a noid light or even a 194 bulb will work. If you got a friend with a scan tool that reads data, since you got it running, watch your misfire graph on the scan tool, that will help you determine what cylinders ar missfiring. Good luck with this!!!
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I got it running, but it runs very rough. I'm going to work on it some more tomorrow, maybe even have a shop look at it.
datalog it and send it to vince.. he should be able to figure it out .. he was great at diagnosing all the problems i was having
Old 02-17-2009, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by b_faulk75
Just curious, where did you get your injectors from, or better yet what did they come out of? I would check for injector pulse to all cylinders using a noid light or even a 194 bulb will work. If you got a friend with a scan tool that reads data, since you got it running, watch your misfire graph on the scan tool, that will help you determine what cylinders ar missfiring. Good luck with this!!!
I bought them off a member on here. They're 42's from a stage 2 kit, but I think there's more of an issue with my wiring than the injectors. Either way, I'm going to do some more tests tomorrow, datalog some and check to see what cylinders are misfiring.
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well glad you got it started...but sucks that its not working right...hope you figure it out soon....im going to go pick up my tools on wednesday and hopefully i get a chance this weekend and it doesnt rain so i can finally do the timing on it and get it back on the road
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Yea not gonna lie the wiring looked a little sketch...

Check out this page...

http://www.mmxpress.com/technical/connections.htm

Goto the part that is called "Butt Soldering"

Read that how to, also i suggest using shrink wrap over all soldered joints, i swear by it, just using tape allows for moisture to get into the wiring and cause corrosion. I normally use 3/16" shrink wrap.
Old 02-17-2009, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vulcanturbo
Yea not gonna lie the wiring looked a little sketch...

Check out this page...

http://www.mmxpress.com/technical/connections.htm

Goto the part that is called "Butt Soldering"

Read that how to, also i suggest using shrink wrap over all soldered joints, i swear by it, just using tape allows for moisture to get into the wiring and cause corrosion. I normally use 3/16" shrink wrap.
Yeah, at the time I didn't have any electrical tape or shrink wrap. Now I redid it with electical tape. I guess tomorrow I will redo it again with shrink wrap and make sure all the connections are rock solid.
Old 02-17-2009, 01:12 AM
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good luck, hopefully she fires right up then off to take her for a rip
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Any update?
Old 02-17-2009, 08:53 PM
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Just finished redoing the wiring harness like that guide said. Everything is really semi professionally done now, not rigged like it was. I still have an oil leak, so tonight I'm going to take the oil return line out and coat the threads with rtv and put it back. Last time I just spot treated it where it was leaking out.

I need a couple of quarts of oil since it's low now, other than that not much to report. If this doesn't work I might get some help from a mechanic I know. He can help me get it running for sure, I just hate to come this far and then have to get someone to help me finish it. Ya know?
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o man good luck...like i said im going to pick up my tools tomorrow and im going to go ahead and get started and try and finish doing the timing on my car
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x2. this i gotta see
Old 02-20-2009, 07:26 PM
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Bout to try and crank her. Got everything situated this time, injector harness was done the right way and just got some fresh oil in her. checked plugs, hopefully it starts this time. Letting the tune reload now.
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go for it, i want vidsz
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*crosses fingarz*
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Hey guys! It runs!!

























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