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Old 02-16-2009, 01:46 PM
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So i dunno...

I just installed a New intake a little bit ago and found that i have SAI (secondary Air Injection) I didnt think anything of it. But then i started up the car and it died.... didnt think anything of it since when i started it up again it was fine... BUT now... I start it up... And i have to give it gas for it to stay alive. and then i go drive it for a little bit. Maybe a block or 2 and its fine... The only thing i can think of that would cause it is that SAI. I didnt hook it up to anything i just left it there..... Is that a bad thing? Would that cause this problem??? OR Is it something else?

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Old 02-16-2009, 01:53 PM
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well when you say you left it "hanging" do you mean just literally hanging or secured to something? cause if you don't secure it you may run into problems such as the SAI hose rubbing the serpentine belt. here's what i did.



just took the SAI line and threw a breather that i bought at Autozone and took a zip tie and secured it to the stock airbox's screw closest to the passenger side. just have to make sure you don;t get too close to the belt down below and make sure that there is no play so that it never will touch the belt.
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Its just hanging... How much is a breather? And would that be my Start up Dying problem?
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Doubtful, adding a breather isn't going to change anything besides putting a filter on the hose. Which btw, i suggest you do before that thing sucks sand or something in and bogs up your car. My suggestion would be throw the stock intake back on and see if anything changes.
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
Doubtful, adding a breather isn't going to change anything besides putting a filter on the hose. Which btw, i suggest you do before that thing sucks sand or something in and bogs up your car. My suggestion would be throw the stock intake back on and see if anything changes.

Was thinking about it. Just gotta figure out what my main problem is..
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Well throwin the stock intake back on might tell you what the problem is. if the problem persists even after returning to factory, then it's most likely not an intake problem at all. this could be one of those rare instances where something else just happens to go wrong at the exact same time you installed your intake. Btw, were you very careful when handling the MAF? It could be possible that you jarred it and it's acting up now. No CEL?
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I get a CEL. I was careful with the MAF. could that be the problem?
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Did you have the CEL before the intake or no? if not, run it down to autozone and have them do the free diagnostic to tell you what the prob is. That's an issue with these chevy's...half the time when you do an intake it throws a code. And it very possibly could be the MAF. If it got bumped the wrong way or w/e it might not be registering the right amount of airflow in the piping which would cause the CEL and the dying out thing. I'd get the code checked out cuz that will most likely tell you what ur issue is.
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Ok... Does Kragen do that??? theres no autozone around here...
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make sure you connected the MAF sensor facing the right way
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^^good call..but if it were backwards, it wouldn't run at all, right? And i dunno if they'll do it, you'd have to call and ask or go in and ask. You don't have an autozone near there and I've never even heard of that place lol
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im not sure if the car will run or not with maf sensor facing the wrong way but if it runs its gonna run like **** so id say check it you never know
what intake did you get btw?
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Ebay Intake.... Dont knock lol its hard working pay check to pay check. ill check the MAF. And see if it runs better..
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eww...believe me dude, I'm in the same place you are with the paycheck to paycheck thing, but you prolly woulda been better off with a k&n filter and the air box mod
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Originally Posted by DBewley925
I get a CEL. I was careful with the MAF. could that be the problem?
im almost positive its a MAF issue. If your car starst without the MAF conencted, it attempts to stall out. If you give it gas, it will stay alive. After about 10 seconds, the car will drive fine. Sometimes youll get misfires at higher RPMs also when WOT.
If any of this sounds familiar to you, its definitely a MAF issue
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
im almost positive its a MAF issue. If your car starst without the MAF conencted, it attempts to stall out. If you give it gas, it will stay alive. After about 10 seconds, the car will drive fine. Sometimes youll get misfires at higher RPMs also when WOT.
If any of this sounds familiar to you, its definitely a MAF issue
What would the issue be??

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eww...believe me dude, I'm in the same place you are with the paycheck to paycheck thing, but you prolly woulda been better off with a k&n filter and the air box mod

been there done that... I just didnt like the Plastic **** on the engine...

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Yep sounds like a MAF sensor problem to me.. I would make sure its making a good connection.. If it isnt then you are going to have to go another route.. Also the SAI like said above needs to be connected to a breather filter or its going to suck up some **** and screw up your engine
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Originally Posted by silver06cobalt
Yep sounds like a MAF sensor problem to me.. I would make sure its making a good connection.. If it isnt then you are going to have to go another route.. Also the SAI like said above needs to be connected to a breather filter or its going to suck up some **** and screw up your engine
Yeah i put one on. dad had a couple from his harley that he had lyin around. so i got that.. I just got to check the MAF Sensor. Just need to wait for my buddy to get off work. ( he likes to take all my tools away from me Lol..
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while you're waitin...check for good connections! You could have a leak downstream from the MAF and that would cause your problem tto. Check all connections -- including the mAF seal!

Additionally, have the codes read AND do an erase -- even if you don't have any codes so it will reset the learn values of te sensor and start adjusting to your new intake quicker.
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While you're waiting...check for good connections! You could have a leak downstream from the MAF and that would cause your problem too. Check all connections -- including the mAF seal!

Additionally, have the codes read AND do an erase -- even if you don't have any codes so it will reset the learn values of the sensor and start adjusting to your new intake quicker.

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i understand the paycheck to paycheck thing i believe pretty much everyone is at that situation trust me
but an ebay intake sometimes can do more damage than actually make things better the airbox mod would be a good solution but hey its your car you do w/e you want dont get me wrong i hope you solve your problem and enjoy the mod
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Yeah found out the problem.....

MAF was pointing the wrong way... Everything is good now..
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Well there ya go, at least you found the problem. Now go get those codes cleared and ur good as new
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maf was the wrong way. such a simple mistake. thank god it wasn't something like a fried maf cause the filter was too oily. phew
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