2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 02-19-2008, 11:50 AM
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^ what he said.... get your handling up.. springs... strut tower bar, rear sway.. that way u can enjoy the power... u try turning a curve fast with the 4X4 set up on the 2.2's and u will lower it QUICK lol
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I'd say suspension
Old 02-19-2008, 01:50 PM
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Go buy a 2.4L intake manifold swap off of CED
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Originally Posted by MP Cobalt
Go buy a 2.4L intake manifold swap off of CED
also a good idea
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honestly i'd say sell and atleast get a standard
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Originally Posted by blk ss/sc 1
honestly i'd say sell and atleast get a standard
you realize a computer can shift faster and never miss a gear

go with the cams, if they made those for the 2.4 id order them right now

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Old 02-19-2008, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blk ss/sc 1
honestly i'd say sell and atleast get a standard
Nope, all the time money and mods I've invested into this car means I'm married for atleast another 4 years.

Also traffic is too bad for a manual here, shifting where I live is more of an annoyance rather than an enjoyance... Theres a stoplight every quarter mile, with stand still traffic throughout.
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Originally Posted by CobaltFan06
Nope, all the time money and mods I've invested into this car means I'm married for atleast another 4 years.

Also traffic is too bad for a manual here, shifting where I live is more of an annoyance rather than an enjoyance... Theres a stoplight every quarter mile, with stand still traffic throughout.
and considering our tranny is only rated up to 170 tq your manual tranny would blow, good plan getting the auto..i regret the manual for sake of modding but still manual is more fun then auto..ether way..its good u didnt get the manual
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Originally Posted by Projekt
you realize a computer can shift faster and never miss a gear

go with the cams, if they made those for the 2.4 id order them right now
uh what are u tryin to move.. a standard is way more fun to drive and yea an auto might shift faster and never miss a gear but u cant control when it is going to shift which is going to make a huge difference when racing especially if u were going around a lot of turns. IMO i think putting a lot of money into a 2.2 auto isnt worth the outcome at all
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Heres an idea, what if I got a piggyback and tuned for all my bolt ons and new cams that way? Think that might yield any results?
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get your head port and polished, but take it to a machine shop not an engine builder. You can get it done cheap that way, and most of them know what their doing. Depending on your other mods, just from a p&p job you could pick up 15-20whp, and the gain will just increase the more mods you do. then i'd say go nitrous (WET KIT!!!!!!!!) later on.
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Originally Posted by blk ss/sc 1
uh what are u tryin to move.. a standard is way more fun to drive and yea an auto might shift faster and never miss a gear but u cant control when it is going to shift which is going to make a huge difference when racing especially if u were going around a lot of turns. IMO i think putting a lot of money into a 2.2 auto isnt worth the outcome at all
Opinion noted.

Lets not turn this into an auto vs manual flame war. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I got an auto because it suited my situation best, now unless you have constructive ideas, please refrain from being a douchebag and move on
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Originally Posted by blk ss/sc 1
uh what are u tryin to move.. a standard is way more fun to drive and yea an auto might shift faster and never miss a gear but u cant control when it is going to shift which is going to make a huge difference when racing especially if u were going around a lot of turns. IMO i think putting a lot of money into a 2.2 auto isnt worth the outcome at all
im not arguing that a standard is more fun to drive, why do you think i bought a standard? but the tranny in the 2.2/2.4 manual's are POS they are rated FROM GM for 160 tq..meaning any aftermarket mod and your pushing your tranny to its limits..

and with a shift plus, a auto can shift just as good as a manual...

IMO i think putting money into a discountinued motor is pointless but thats another topic for another thread

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Opinion noted.

Lets not turn this into an auto vs manual flame war. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I got an auto because it suited my situation best, now unless you have constructive ideas, please refrain from being a douchebag and move on
agreed im to sick to argue

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Originally Posted by Projekt
im not arguing that a standard is more fun to drive, why do you think i bought a standard? but the tranny in the 2.2/2.4 manual's are POS they are rated FROM GM for 160 tq..meaning any aftermarket mod and your pushing your tranny to its limits..

and with a shift plus, a auto can shift just as good as a manual...

IMO i think putting money into a discountinued motor is pointless but thats another topic for another thread
an auto wont outrun a manual without a tranny tune/stall if the manual can be properly driven. The whole auto > manual thing really only works on modded 8's imo or aftermarket auto trannies on drag cars. Most fwd cars get such bad traction that a loose stall is a bad idea and you need the control of a manual to pedal it for the first couple gears anyway.
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sooooooo Ian....when you wanna run me??? lol
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sooooooo Ian....when you wanna run me??? lol
Haha sometime before I ship out. I wanna throw those cams in now though haha. We're deff gonna run em before I leave though.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
an auto wont outrun a manual without a tranny tune/stall if the manual can be properly driven. The whole auto > manual thing really only works on modded 8's imo or aftermarket auto trannies on drag cars. Most fwd cars get such bad traction that a loose stall is a bad idea and you need the control of a manual to pedal it for the first couple gears anyway.
i was refering to most muscle cars...and yes, both have their pros and cons..just the manual tranny they put in the 2.2/2.4 is complete garbage..is what i was refering to
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Originally Posted by CobaltFan06
Haha sometime before I ship out. I wanna throw those cams in now though haha. We're deff gonna run em before I leave though.
lol...well...if you need help with that cam swap i know my way around a wrench!!!
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I think the cams would be a great idea to as you wouldnt need tuning for running them, and they wont wear down your valve train like the stage 2 and 3's will..
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tuning is being tested as we speak. they finally got something for us
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Originally Posted by BigTizzle903
tuning is being tested as we speak. they finally got something for us
I won't get excited till I see some dyno sheets with proven gains thou.

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lol...well...if you need help with that cam swap i know my way around a wrench!!!
I prolly will, I've never done cams before

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Old 02-19-2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltFan06
I won't get excited till I see some dyno sheets with proven gains thou.



I prolly will, I've never done cams before
ive seen it done....and understand how to do it....thats what they make the f'n HANES manual for!!!! just let me know when you plan on it man
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Alright dude, will do.

How much do port n polishes go for?
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Originally Posted by CobaltFan06
Alright dude, will do.

How much do port n polishes go for?
its possible that would be in your price range.....but idk where you would get it done around here....i think there might be one machine shop, but idk if they are still around
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Well there are ALOT of places in lewisville I could check out, I'm just wondering how much it would set me back.


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