So what else can we do? 2.2L
11-24-2007, 09:07 PM
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So what else can we do? 2.2L
Besides the 2.4L Intake manifold, intake, header, downpipe, and exhuast what else can we do?
I suppose motor mounts, tranny mounts, etc... but power adders.
Not a fan of nitrous, anything else?
I suppose motor mounts, tranny mounts, etc... but power adders.
Not a fan of nitrous, anything else?
11-24-2007, 09:12 PM
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You don't want to get into tuning? HOLY COW BATMAN!
That is by far the best bang for the buck you can do, and when you get past your basic bolt ons tuning is a MUST! HP Tuners is user friendly...but I wish I could do that for my car. Try reading up on MS II or even MS I.
Just get use to maybe having to go into tuning. If you don't feel like messing with it you can get someone to tune your car for you. But after bolt ons...tuning is very very essential.
That is by far the best bang for the buck you can do, and when you get past your basic bolt ons tuning is a MUST! HP Tuners is user friendly...but I wish I could do that for my car. Try reading up on MS II or even MS I.
Just get use to maybe having to go into tuning. If you don't feel like messing with it you can get someone to tune your car for you. But after bolt ons...tuning is very very essential.
11-24-2007, 09:29 PM
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You don't want to get into tuning? HOLY COW BATMAN!
That is by far the best bang for the buck you can do, and when you get past your basic bolt ons tuning is a MUST! HP Tuners is user friendly...but I wish I could do that for my car. Try reading up on MS II or even MS I.
Just get use to maybe having to go into tuning. If you don't feel like messing with it you can get someone to tune your car for you. But after bolt ons...tuning is very very essential.
That is by far the best bang for the buck you can do, and when you get past your basic bolt ons tuning is a MUST! HP Tuners is user friendly...but I wish I could do that for my car. Try reading up on MS II or even MS I.
Just get use to maybe having to go into tuning. If you don't feel like messing with it you can get someone to tune your car for you. But after bolt ons...tuning is very very essential.
its not like we are in the 2.2 section for a reason...
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11-24-2007, 09:31 PM
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I would love to be able to tune with HP Tuners, What I meant by too in depth is having to rewire a piggy back in to everything.
I'm just trying to decide wether I should keep what I've got or trade up.
I thought someone said Comp 1 cams, but not sure if that's gunna increase gains either.
I'm just trying to decide wether I should keep what I've got or trade up.
I thought someone said Comp 1 cams, but not sure if that's gunna increase gains either.
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11-24-2007, 09:32 PM
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You can get a 05 ECU and a wiring harness and a custom tune to where everything works. But it is not cost effective.
11-24-2007, 09:33 PM
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like hack and i said... internals like pistons cams ect.... but again tuning is NO go... SCT hasnt release the tuning for our 2.2s other than in the garrett turbo kit....so piggy back is the only way to go... and you dont HAVE to tune...
11-24-2007, 09:38 PM
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In order to get the most out of the turbo kit you have to tune. I haven't done a lot of research into the turbo kit as I don't have the Cobalt, but they had to come up with a way to have fuel management. It's set to run the car rich so its safe and the user won't blow their engine up once they install it. You have to have a fuel management in place to run forced induction unless you want to risk having the stock ECU settings supply the greater amount of demand for fuel. Therefore, they had to run a tune to get the A/F ratio to a safe range.
Pistons is all I see other than camshafts, head work that do not NEED tune, but you get more bang for the buck if you get things tuned. Which the only way would be a stand alone. That's the way to get the most out of the modifications is to tune the ECU to run the best way with those modifications. That is all I'm saying getting a tune is the best way to get maximum power out of your engine.
Pistons is all I see other than camshafts, head work that do not NEED tune, but you get more bang for the buck if you get things tuned. Which the only way would be a stand alone. That's the way to get the most out of the modifications is to tune the ECU to run the best way with those modifications. That is all I'm saying getting a tune is the best way to get maximum power out of your engine.
11-24-2007, 09:41 PM
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In order to get the most out of the turbo kit you have to tune. I haven't done a lot of research into the turbo kit as I don't have the Cobalt, but they had to come up with a way to have fuel management. It's set to run the car rich so its safe and the user won't blow their engine up once they install it. You have to have a fuel management in place to run forced induction unless you want to risk having the stock ECU settings supply the greater amount of demand for fuel. Therefore, they had to run a tune to get the A/F ratio to a safe range.
Pistons is all I see other than camshafts, head work that do not NEED tune, but you get more bang for the buck if you get things tuned. Which the only way would be a stand alone. That's the way to get the most out of the modifications is to tune the ECU to run the best way with those modifications.
Pistons is all I see other than camshafts, head work that do not NEED tune, but you get more bang for the buck if you get things tuned. Which the only way would be a stand alone. That's the way to get the most out of the modifications is to tune the ECU to run the best way with those modifications.
11-24-2007, 09:48 PM
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It was the stetement saying there was NO tune available. And I was stating there are ways to get tune without having to go with a standalone.
For the 06 there WILL NOT be enough of a demand that I see for at least a year or so unless they see a lot of people are willing to pay for it. So a easy way to tune for the 06 is out of the question, but there are ways other than going to standalone.
For the 06 there WILL NOT be enough of a demand that I see for at least a year or so unless they see a lot of people are willing to pay for it. So a easy way to tune for the 06 is out of the question, but there are ways other than going to standalone.
11-25-2007, 12:50 AM
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With deep enough pockets you can do anything that you can do to any other car.....
11-25-2007, 01:26 AM
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How much have you done to your car Switt? Cuz i don't know if you've done it or not but with a CAI and a full exhaust (header back) it makes a pretty good difference. I just got back from testing my car on a short by-pass run and damn, it may not be as fast as my dad's mustang but it is definatly as fun on the highway (or more fun idk lol). I too am looking to do more to my 2.2 but being i have an 07 i am screwed on the cams thing (damn it!) but from what i hear i may have a better chance at getting tuning. I would say seeing how you have an 06 do cams in addition to the bolt ons. Hack you have me curious now, how much more power would you gain from going higher compression pistons? Lets say for example....11:1?