So what else can we do? 2.2L
11-25-2007, 01:40 AM
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Something about different head and a cam sensor or something. Idk, i saw it in the aftermarket parts sticky and then asked half cent about it. He says can't do it. Might be some way to mod or something but with a sensor it probably requires tuning or a reflash anyways.
11-25-2007, 09:58 AM
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11-25-2007, 10:35 AM
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There's already a turbo kit out for the 2.2L swapping in the 2.0L is a waste of money IMO. But I'm not saying anymore because then the 2.0L guys will be ranting down on this thread that their engines are better, etc.
11-25-2007, 10:38 AM
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fDoesn't the GM Cobalt racing havethe 2.2L platform in it? I believe so. But then again they dumped some serious $$$$$$$$ into the car.
There's already a turbo kit out for the 2.2L swapping in the 2.0L is a waste of money IMO. But I'm not saying anymore because then the 2.0L guys will be ranting down on this thread that their engines are better, etc.
There's already a turbo kit out for the 2.2L swapping in the 2.0L is a waste of money IMO. But I'm not saying anymore because then the 2.0L guys will be ranting down on this thread that their engines are better, etc.
its a 2.0 turbo.
11-25-2007, 11:04 AM
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Already tried to say tuning is essential.
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11-25-2007, 11:59 AM
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fDoesn't the GM Cobalt racing havethe 2.2L platform in it? I believe so. But then again they dumped some serious $$$$$$$$ into the car.
There's already a turbo kit out for the 2.2L swapping in the 2.0L is a waste of money IMO. But I'm not saying anymore because then the 2.0L guys will be ranting down on this thread that their engines are better, etc.
There's already a turbo kit out for the 2.2L swapping in the 2.0L is a waste of money IMO. But I'm not saying anymore because then the 2.0L guys will be ranting down on this thread that their engines are better, etc.
The 2.0 LSJ is (with the stock M62) is in no way a "better" engine. The car is fast yes, but it doesnt react well to mods. How many balts out there are 300whp+ with the stock blower?
11-25-2007, 12:53 PM
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... I guess what I was getting at was where else do you go from there. It seems like after all your bolt-ons, your done. Granted you can do suspension mods and such to increase the power to the ground, but i was just curious how far you could "milk" the 2.2L for power. I know the tuning was an issue. I don't really want to dump a ton of money in the car. I either plan on driving it til it dies, or trading in for something new after my loan is paid off in the next few months.
11-25-2007, 12:56 PM
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... I guess what I was getting at was where else do you go from there. It seems like after all your bolt-ons, your done. Granted you can do suspension mods and such to increase the power to the ground, but i was just curious how far you could "milk" the 2.2L for power. I know the tuning was an issue. I don't really want to dump a ton of money in the car. I either plan on driving it til it dies, or trading in for something new after my loan is paid off in the next few months.
11-25-2007, 12:57 PM
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GM isn't running exclusively the 2.0 or the 2.2, they are running a sorta mix of the two, a bored out 2.0 to 2.16 so it's in between...sure they run the LSJ in the road race cars but the drag cars pretty much use the 2.16 motor (yes with tons of cash dumped in, their big drag cars push 1450hp, with their mid running 900hp and their slower ones running 650hp)
they don't even use the LNF engine for the drift car, they use a turbocharged 2.4....
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Drag-...g-Engine-Specs
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Road-Racing
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Drift...Specifications
they don't even use the LNF engine for the drift car, they use a turbocharged 2.4....
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Drag-...g-Engine-Specs
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Road-Racing
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Drift...Specifications
11-25-2007, 01:02 PM
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If I remember right for awhile they were using the LD9 head on the Ecotec 2.2L block. Obviously everything p&p with compression probably through the roof!
Does anyone know about the Stage 1 Comp Cams, if they need tuning... I understand that they are more beneficial with tuning, but can get by without it... nevermind, that sounds bad.
Does anyone know about the Stage 1 Comp Cams, if they need tuning... I understand that they are more beneficial with tuning, but can get by without it... nevermind, that sounds bad.
11-25-2007, 02:30 PM
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If I remember right for awhile they were using the LD9 head on the Ecotec 2.2L block. Obviously everything p&p with compression probably through the roof!
Does anyone know about the Stage 1 Comp Cams, if they need tuning... I understand that they are more beneficial with tuning, but can get by without it... nevermind, that sounds bad.
Does anyone know about the Stage 1 Comp Cams, if they need tuning... I understand that they are more beneficial with tuning, but can get by without it... nevermind, that sounds bad.
11-25-2007, 05:46 PM
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Go look at j-body.org for more 2.2 eco stuff. They've been messing with them since 02.
11-25-2007, 07:34 PM
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11-25-2007, 07:42 PM
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not really, too unreliable and they liked to overheat in traffic, Plus the 2.4 isnt a quad 4 motor, just the 2.3..otherwise the 2.4 would have said quad 4 on the top like the 2.3's did
and nobody should ever go to jbo, place is a pile of poop
and nobody should ever go to jbo, place is a pile of poop
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11-25-2007, 08:18 PM
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there is only 1 guy I know of that has attempted to run Comp Stage 1 cams on his car...
posted a video of his shitty ass idle and then didn't state much after that...based on that video though I would vote against Stage 1 cams without atleast the AEM FIC.
I have done, intake, header, exhaust, 2.4 intake manifold, ported throttle body and a patriot stage 2 head and at a certain point it all becomes pointless as you need to be actually moving more air through your motor (ie: cams) instead of just having the ability to flow a large amount of air.
posted a video of his shitty ass idle and then didn't state much after that...based on that video though I would vote against Stage 1 cams without atleast the AEM FIC.
I have done, intake, header, exhaust, 2.4 intake manifold, ported throttle body and a patriot stage 2 head and at a certain point it all becomes pointless as you need to be actually moving more air through your motor (ie: cams) instead of just having the ability to flow a large amount of air.
11-25-2007, 08:35 PM
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I say screw performance now, gunna put an intake and exhuast on it and call it a day. Gunna lower the car, buy a lip kit and some 18" black /w polished lip rims and tint the windows. Call it good.
I have a black car... i like the dark look.
I have a black car... i like the dark look.
11-25-2007, 09:14 PM
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j-body.org sucks. Sucky forum layout can't find anything.
11-25-2007, 09:26 PM
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some questions regarding a 2.2 if you get the zzp header is their any modification needed for it to fit a 2.2 and is it the best one out their ? is the zzp downpipe better than the cobalt-addiction downpipe ?