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so, most of you around this section have seen my build, cai, 2.4 mani. 2.4 tb, lsj injectors, shaved head .020", stg2 comp cams, clear image 4-2-1 header, 2.5"catless dp, 3" clear image exhaust and a tune
it runs a little bit rough at idle and sometimes dies out, i think its due to the spark plugs, any suggestions on what i should be running for this? and what gap?
it runs a little bit rough at idle and sometimes dies out, i think its due to the spark plugs, any suggestions on what i should be running for this? and what gap?
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dont get stock... u got a crazy aftermarket list there...which is nasty i might add...but if i were you i would try and get a nice set of spark plugs specially not stock, i know some people on here say stock is just fine but if ur pushing more fuel through those injectors im sure u need better spark plugs, also i have a good friend who is a mechanic and he said stock plugs are for stock cars in your case ur def not stock specially with the head work and the cams...so i suggest go with i nice set of NGKs but u can do what u wanna do haha
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dont get stock... u got a crazy aftermarket list there...which is nasty i might add...but if i were you i would try and get a nice set of spark plugs specially not stock, i know some people on here say stock is just fine but if ur pushing more fuel through those injectors im sure u need better spark plugs, also i have a good friend who is a mechanic and he said stock plugs are for stock cars in your case ur def not stock specially with the head work and the cams...so i suggest go with i nice set of NGKs but u can do what u wanna do haha
but with going higher compression and such, would i want to go colder and hotter?
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dont get stock... u got a crazy aftermarket list there...which is nasty i might add...but if i were you i would try and get a nice set of spark plugs specially not stock, i know some people on here say stock is just fine but if ur pushing more fuel through those injectors im sure u need better spark plugs, also i have a good friend who is a mechanic and he said stock plugs are for stock cars in your case ur def not stock specially with the head work and the cams...so i suggest go with i nice set of NGKs but u can do what u wanna do haha
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mine werent, and im was running on schucks stock replacements (cheapest brand lol) and need new ones, i think its helping to cause the rough idle...i also need to check the gap
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just go NGK and im guessing 1 step colder but hey its a guess...my thought is cuz of people the Spray there cobalts use 1 to 2 step colder plugs but hey its only a guess haha
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after some research...stock heat range, stock gap, ngk brand is what im going to go with
engine temps are fine so no need to go colder and dont want it to heat up anymore either
going to see if i can get ahold of some tonight to replace my stocker cheapo schucks brand for the dyno tomorrow
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if its acting like it wants to die, you probably dont have the timing advanced enough or its running too lean. You have to advance the timing quite a bit with stage 2's. Although it wont hurt to put a new set of plugs in.
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Vince is going to work on it a tiny bit more today, timing is right, we know that, and it has gotten better after letting it drive for a while, but everyonce in a while it tries to die lol,
its also running way rich, when i dynoed on sat (vince wasnt able to be there) i had an afr of 11 instead of being up around 13-14...so i hope that fixes it
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well it does have new plugs after the build, it has autolites, stock heat and gap
Vince is going to work on it a tiny bit more today, timing is right, we know that, and it has gotten better after letting it drive for a while, but everyonce in a while it tries to die lol,
its also running way rich, when i dynoed on sat (vince wasnt able to be there) i had an afr of 11 instead of being up around 13-14...so i hope that fixes it
Vince is going to work on it a tiny bit more today, timing is right, we know that, and it has gotten better after letting it drive for a while, but everyonce in a while it tries to die lol,
its also running way rich, when i dynoed on sat (vince wasnt able to be there) i had an afr of 11 instead of being up around 13-14...so i hope that fixes it
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Hmm. yeah i did have the same issue with AFR. I was running 11.5 at WOT, so vince changed it to more around 13.8. Anyhow, i would honestly stay away from autolite plugs, even though that's not what's making it die. I was wondering, when does it want to die? is it right after a WOT or after you feather the throttle? Also, does it do this when the car is warm or cold? For me, it will almost die if its cold and you come to a stop, and when you rev it then let off of it too quick. mail me back.
im going to change the plugs when i get paid next week to ngk iridiums
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what it sounds like is that when you rev it quick the ECU want to compinsate too much and throws to much fuel the spark plugs can handle...and thats all she wrote...so maybe u might wanna get a little better set of spark plugs