o3nisoaso3

id say the ttr mounts but since i never used any i shouldnt recommend. check http://bwoodyperformance.com/index.php?cPath=22

MP Cobalt

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Yeah Al was talking about they have some nice stuff. The only thing is they only got mounts probably for the manual tranny.

o3nisoaso3

you can get the 3 mount set and get it painted orange to match

yea, they do. i loved all mine i got from there

MP Cobalt

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thats the motor mounts tho. i need to get a tranny mount for right now at least because it raddles like crazy.

bykryder83

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um put supertech valve springs and retainers in that ur getting coil bind

Witt

Supertech springs wont bind on comp cams. I thought we covered that?

o3nisoaso3

haha go ahead Al. teach another one

copson20

Glad to hear you got your car fixed MP Cobalt
sorry to hear about nick

o3nisoaso3

haha thanks jason, itll be fixed and running by the end of the month

MP Cobalt

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Yeah thanks Jason, Nicks will be running very shortly. Hopefully we can rip it apart next weekend and he can order everything he needs and put it together the weekend after.

o3nisoaso3

yea hopefully. last time the valves took like 2 weeks to get cuz i dont think ANYBODY had them in stock lol but i may just order them now and if i dont need all of them then i got back ups lol and maybe you can just order a few n buy mine off me n have a set for your car... specially if you wanna run spray down the road

i like your new part of your sig, where you get it?

MP Cobalt

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What you mean the little cobalt picture?

o3nisoaso3

yea, thats what i mean. were gonna rip apart the car this weekend then order **** n fix asap!

copson20

im getting ready to build the motor!!! Everything!!!

MP Cobalt

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yeah welcome to our journey. My car doesn't feel like its pulling any harder after the cams and tune. idk if its on vinces end or am i just not feeling it? Would a 2.5 exhaust help to reduce back pressure from the cams? This weekend were gonna throw nick 2.4 mani on my car any see if we notice anything different. If so ill have to buy one of those and (pay for another tune)

copson20

vince shouldn't make u pay for another tune but I dunno.
Oh you should be feeling it. Did vince retune it after you fixed the timing?

MP Cobalt

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no we used the same tune. He said my a/f ratios is ok and everything. he also said he starting to see some Knock retard from where i have no idea so he didnt want to push it to far. so this weekend were going to do some more data logging and send it in so he can review it after a full drive cycle. he sent us a new tranny tune so well see what happens this weekend. but nick and i seem disappointed we really didnt feel any difference or maybe we didnt notice it

WSFrazier

I assume everything is still driving okay? Better than it was before the re-time?

MP Cobalt

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Yeah it just don't feel like its pulling any harder than before. i mean be fore the cams installed, idk if it's me not noticing it or if the power is really there

copson20

Well mine being a manual? i dunno but i can rip the tires trough first and second and chirp third. massivematts is about the same.

MP Cobalt

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Idk Vince got alot of reviewing to do on the data logging. Need a new start map because i got to give it gas to start, car jerks like hell at a stop light while i let it in drive, also got to fix it so when i let off the gas it dont drop to like 500 on the rpm gauge and jump back and forth for like 2 minutes until it catches it's self.

o3nisoaso3

yea, thats what i just went through. the only thing in my motor i dont got is adjustable timing gears, lifters and rockers. did you ever pull the timing cover off for timing the motor? what all are you doing to your motor? crank and all? what hp you shooting for?

he said if you add performance parts its like 120ish (i cant remember but got the price sheet) and doing just adjustments to remove CELs and adjust things (ex fan temp) cost like 90. id have to check to see for sure tho. and we had a base tune but with the car not idling correctly he sent a new tune for a 150 higher idle and its still very skittish on idling

he reviewed all i sent him but said everything looked fine. i know with the bigger cams you may see knock because valvetrain noises are the same frequency as knock sensor, so that may be what he is seeing and not pushing more outta it. yea just after we get a full drive cycle the car should be set and the data logs should be more accurate

IonNinja

these issues with tuning are making me weary of going with those cams...was gonna be my next purchase too but I can't afford to deal with those drivability issues while the tune gets worked out.

o3nisoaso3

well so far i havent had a problem with mine other than that my cam timing was out. mike had the same problem. jason and matts cammed cars run great from what they say. we tried a cam gear tool and it didnt stay in time. so we had al n wes (witt and wsfrazier) come over and pull the cover and time it the right way. you rocking the stick or auto? i have seen just a few autos of all the tunes that complained about the tcm tune.

honestly if you do the install correctly you should have no driveability issues with vince's tune

MP Cobalt

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Yeah i hope so or were gonna give Al his number so he can call him and talk to him about when i slow down and everything