xspyder85x

i read somewhere on here today that there is a .2 supercharger around $1700. is this true? would our cars, theoretically, be faster than the 2.0's since its larger. and another thing, if it is true, then why dont we get these?? are the "furture" turbos going to be faster? is that why everyone is waiting?? enlighten me.

karl

they make a supercharger for the 2.2 but its for the cavis and sunfires (pre 05)....it wont fit into our cars

xspyder85x

hmmm, anything in production perhaps?

HellHound

you might have to be carfull with a S/C on the 2.2 as well. That engine is set up to be N/A. The 2.0 has stronger pistons and rods that can handle the increase in pressure and fuel.

Clmbngfrk18

the 2.2 is good to 250 whp so bolting it on isnt a power problem but a tunig problem

NJHK

Actually, physically, there is no difference between the 2.2s in the j-bodies and in the cobalts/ions, so yes, you could put one on there. Only real issue is the reflash that's included won't work on your PCM.

Clmbngfrk18

of yeah btw what is a supdercharger

Kahless

most production cars out there can take 5-8psi without upgrades. but from then on your asking for trouble.

Pyros777

iTrader: (4)

lol @ bolding the wrong letter...

CTCOBALTSSS

Why would someone want to supercharge a 2.2 when you can save yourself time, money and headaches by just getting the ss/sc? You smell what i'm stepping in?

Strider_2001

Because at the time I bought my 2.2 I did not have the money for the SS/SC...Now I have the money and want one...

CTCOBALTSSS

So with the money you will be spending on the supercharger and everything else it takes to actualy get it to work, just trade in your current Cobalt and get the SS/SC. I'm saying this because there is a lot more involved than you think to make this 2.2 supercharged work and be reliable. Just use the money that you now have and get a warrantied SS/SC.

SS33

^^While I agree with most of what you are saying CTCOBALTSSS,

I also understand not being able to afford anything above the base level.

When I bought my cavy it was all I could afford at the time,
but now for a few grand I could make it mean as hell,,
and being a base model will help because they are inherintly light weight to begin with,
without power features/overweight rims/heavy seats, etc etc.

So yeah I agree, if you can afford it and performance is your goal, start with a better equipped car. It will save some headaches in the longrun, and likely be more reliable. And for superercharging, It makes much more sense to start with the SS/SC, but if turbo is your goal, base models are probably the best place to start

But there is nothing wrong with budget builds. And I will go on the record now saying as soon as they get the tuning figured out and a solid turbo kit available, the 2.2's will probably own most of us SC guys. (Enter HP tuners and HAHN)

A few grand into a 2.2 and you could have a mean turbo beast capable of hanging with and beating most of us who are limited by the M62

Just my .02

xspyder85x

yeah i was just wandering, im just going to wait on the turbo

SSCobalt~SSZ24

2.4L supercharger works great at 5 psi

CTCOBALTSSS

Thanks bro. I understand money wasn't available at the time but since it is now, he might as well just put it towards an SS/SC. It will have more goodies besides just the supercharger, no headaches due to things not working and a warranty. Just my opinion.

SS33

Sorry CT, I had to edit that post like 6 times to get it to say what I meant, lol,,,
my fingers can't keep up with my brain today,,
too much sun and beer over the weekend, lol

yeah I agree with you though, if you wanna supercharged eco in a cobalt, buy it, dont make it
If you want turbo, that's another story

Strider_2001

Do they have any idea of when the Turbo's are going to be out....I would go for trading the car in for a SS/SC but I am in a lease and I am scared of the cons of that..

xCobalt05x

it will bolt up to our cars, its the PCM program code that isnt compatable. You can try to use the cavy program code and see if it works like that but i doubt it, now if you buy the stage 2 upgrade that has the reflash for an SS cobalt that might work since all the sensors will now all be the same w/ the 2.2L supercharger on. Once i get the 1700 saved up ill let you know if it works

Clmbngfrk18

wow now i feel owned lol

xCobalt05x

why the 2.2L, because there is no substitue for bigger displacement. and really thats not saving money. I paid 15,000 for my everything but xm, onstar, leather, moon roof cobalt, now add in the 1700 for the supercharger on a 2.2L and the 700 for the stage 2 thats only 17,400 vs. your 23,000 SS/SC i see that is almost a 6k savings. Im willing to put up with the headake of time investing for 6k savings.

Strider_2001

What Exactly does a stage 2 do for you??

RedBaseBolt

It's because the 2.2L Ecotec Can never lose. Simple.

IonNinja

thats true, theres already a supercharged version of the Cobalt.

Really if you're looking to go FI you should look other places (turbo) or look into a nitrous setup.

NGalaxyTimmyo

iTrader: (1)

I see what your saying, but theres a lot more to it then this. You can do this, run 4-6 psi, but your still not making the same power. If you want to run 18psi or more, like some people are, you're gonna use that +-6 grand either building up the motor to take it all, or more when you have to rebuild your engine cause it wasn't able to take it.

If you just bolt on a supercharger and a stage 2 kit onto a 2.2, bye bye motor.