Gus RT

Now that I am 1000 miles away from the end of my warranty I plan on going turbo. I was looking at the eagle rods and wiesco pistons. I just wanted to know if any have used these or can recomend something better. Also when you did you bottem end did you have everthing balanced or just put the pistons and rods on a scale and try to get them close in matching weight?

Thanks

XM15

Aaron at TTR has the eagle rods in his cavy that IIRC makes over 700 hp. The eagle rods should suit you fine.

06_ion2

the 10:1 pistons from wiesco arnt ment for boost.. balance your motor to 9k

myrdhyn

Does anyone feel like sharing the labor cost for getting forged internals put in? I know it won't be exact for different areas, but a ballpark figure would be nice.

Sentry

Could be anywhere from 800-1500 or more. You're looking at over 10 hours of labor at the very least.

More if your shop doesn't know what they're doing, or if they are trying to fool you.

Sw4y1313

I was going to say if you were closer to me i'd install them for way cheaper then 800. But your in alabama

$800 is what most of the shops quoted me in my area until i decided to do it myself. Since then i've done 3 other motor swaps and 3 engine rebuilds. Its all about torquing things down to spec and taking your time. If you know someone whos good with motors, show them the build book and see if they can follow instructions. If so, it would save you a ton of money. You would just need to hone the cylinders and get the rings gapped correctly before you drop in the pistons/rods.

myrdhyn

So what it boils down to is parts+labor swapping to forged rods, forged pistons, cometic headgasket, and ARP headstuds is going to be ~2-2.5k

Sw4y1313

Most likely. I was lucky enough to get all those parts from 1 person for less then $1k( <3 Dan ). There might be someone on the forums local to you that knows what they are doing. Post in your region section.

constantproject

diy dood...its not as hard as alot of people think...if you are pretty mechanical and have a haynes manual or something you should be fine.......but get it all balanced at a shop first.

06_ion2

i got a qoute for a clutch installed + forged internals honed ballanced and resurfaced flywheel came out to just under 2k and i included all the parts.. labor rates are a little steep here 95/hr. im still looking around for a better deal i might have to drive to denver just to save me some money.

Maven

iTrader: (1)

Make sure you get pistons designed for BOOST. the most common 10:1 wisecos that get talked about are very lightweight NA pistons.

Sentry

Yep, that's too high of compression even if they were designed for boost.

8.9:1's are the ones you need.

06_ion2

well the 8.9 is quite low compresion im still thinking of selling the ones ive got and ordering some custom pistons or possibly mill my head down to make it closer to about a 9.3cr.. if you can get some 10:1 custom made for boost from wiesco id rather do that

mrsilent13

why do you want 10....for boost you need a low compression engine....8.9 is a great compression for boosted engines

06_ion2

you dont technicaly need it but it protects aginst detonation and allows for more timing. the 2.4's are doing just fine boosted on the 10.4:1 i beleive thats the correct cr. but still its all in what you want to do but if id buy pistons again id get some custom 10:1.. but also i should beable to boost and spray with a better buffer zone on the 8.9:1 it just opens up more options in the end without another rebuild

mrsilent13

there your answer

06_ion2

yes lol but its not totaly needed

mrsilent13

i learned my lesson...so i wont risk it any more

06_ion2

yeah i hear ya on that.. how much longer are you down for?

mrsilent13

i should be up next week....just waiting on some cash and looks like im getting it on monday and another bunch on tuesday or wednesday...so things are finally turning around for me

HunterKiller89

iTrader: (1)

you can keep a higher compression and just pull timing you know. Decreasing CR and decreasing timing both do the same thing in that they reduce peak cylinder pressures.
Most like to hold a 9.X:1 CR because those that have swapped to lower CR pistons dont make **** for torque. I think the 8.9:1 gt3071 build i saw last was like 380whp, 260tq. They were some lame ass numbers.
Basically, these motors like a good amount of compression

mrsilent13

hmmm i guess i never thought about it that way...but it makes good sense...****..i guess i fucked myself...but its all good....ill work with it....its better safe than sorry....lol

06_ion2

thats why i think im going to mill the head and get closer to 9.2-9.3:1 still undecided on what to do. i may still get some 10:1 custom made im going to email wiesco about them.

Sentry

Yeah, I think hahn's first project 2.2 had custom 8.0:1 and it made 400 hp and like 300 tq.

Still nothing to scoff at, but yeah lower compression kills torque. 8.9:1 sounds just about perfect to me though. Obviously 10:1 would render MUCH better numbers, but that's really pushing the envelope imo.

Armyguy151

iTrader: (1)

well if u can find some eagle rods for the 2.0 please let me know. im going 9.5.1 on pistons. the internals im havin blue printed and balanced. i did find someone who has customs rods made. i fried the sleeve and piston in the 4th cly. i have purchased the sleeves from turbo tech for 799. and pistons for 799...i also purchased the vulcan exhaust mani and a 3065r turbo..im lookin for a hanhs port fuler if any 1 has one