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Old 03-01-2008, 07:19 PM
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top speed doesn't mean anything at all..especially in a sedan i'd stay away from it. But my governer was taken off so i've taken it about 123 or so. i'm a coupe though. it probably takes miles for a sedan to get to that speed
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Originally Posted by cobalt9123
top speed doesn't mean anything at all..especially in a sedan i'd stay away from it. But my governer was taken off so i've taken it about 123 or so. i'm a coupe though. it probably takes miles for a sedan to get to that speed

Alright, first off, I'm calling bullshit on the removal of your gov.

And secondly, what makes you think that Sedans are inferior?

I'd glady race you for 500 dollars right now
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call bullshit all you want..they had to redo my MAF because it was bad, and they forgot to put the governor on it( not sure how that happens, but i sat there for 3 hours waiting on them to tune it) and they had to make sure it was ok that they didn't put it back in(would take longer or some ****) i said it was fine.
Sedans are heavier.
and that wasn't to say sedans were inferior, it was to say that stock for stock a sedan 2.2 will get beat by a coupe 2.2
yes, i've raced at the track.
16.0 on my part, 16.7 on the gold sedan with cai and exhaust that raced me's part.
and both auto, no drivers race. both going from I-L-D wide open. same tires. no lost weight on either ones part.
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i havent tested it yet, but from what i hear you can change the tire size at gm and it should allow you to go faster. friday i changed my tire size but i havent tryed to test it yet

with the tech 2 i had the options for 15 16 17 inch tires

15's are rated at what 115?
16's are what 120ish?
17's would be ss/na that goes what 130?

i changed it to 16's, it shouldnt affect the cluster because the cobalt is run off the tcm so if it alters the speedo to much i can change it back but im going to test it
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Originally Posted by cobalt9123
call bullshit all you want..they had to redo my MAF because it was bad, and they forgot to put the governor on it( not sure how that happens, but i sat there for 3 hours waiting on them to tune it) and they had to make sure it was ok that they didn't put it back in(would take longer or some ****) i said it was fine.
Sedans are heavier.
and that wasn't to say sedans were inferior, it was to say that stock for stock a sedan 2.2 will get beat by a coupe 2.2
yes, i've raced at the track.
16.0 on my part, 16.7 on the gold sedan with cai and exhaust that raced me's part.
and both auto, no drivers race. both going from I-L-D wide open. same tires. no lost weight on either ones part.
I dunno really how it works on these cars but 9i thought the gonvernor was just computerized... so i don't see how they would forget to put it back in but to me this seems like BS
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don't ask me..it's GM, and it is off...cause before it just cut fuel at 105 or 115...can't remember, and now i've gone >120
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Originally Posted by blu3_v1p3r
I dunno really how it works on these cars but 9i thought the gonvernor was just computerized... so i don't see how they would forget to put it back in but to me this seems like BS
its a program which can be altered but what id like to figure out is what is the difference with the regular 2.2 and the sports upgrade or whatever its called. what module has a different programming? the ecm or bcm?

the bcm cannot be programmed, you go threw a list of what features it has and enable and disable them. my next trick is to do factory cruise control on it. im close on this on
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Originally Posted by madmark


its a program which can be altered but what id like to figure out is what is the difference with the regular 2.2 and the sports upgrade or whatever its called. what module has a different programming? the ecm or bcm?

the bcm cannot be programmed, you go threw a list of what features it has and enable and disable them. my next trick is to do factory cruise control on it. im close on this on
sports upgrade? is that a program from GM? or a 08 model cobalt program??
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Originally Posted by cobalt9123
sports upgrade? is that a program from GM? or a 08 model cobalt program??

its for the 05-07 with the 140 mph cluster along with the ss. they come with 16 inch wheels and thats really all i know about them
Old 03-01-2008, 07:43 PM
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ohhh i gotcha, no clue there.
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i hit 100 once in ss...
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Originally Posted by HackAbuse
Alright, first off, I'm calling bullshit on the removal of your gov.

And secondly, what makes you think that Sedans are inferior?

I'd glady race you for 500 dollars right now
The olny thing that possibly could make the sedan inferior is if it weighs more because of the extra doors. if it weighed 100 LBS more and a coupe could get to 130 MPH, the sedan should top out just a bit lower, maybe 129.5 MPH. If you are going that fast, does 1/2 MPH really make a differance? I think not.

And his mods more than make up for it being a sedan.
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven
The olny thing that possibly could make the sedan inferior is if it weighs more because of the extra doors. if it weighed 100 LBS more and a coupe could get to 130 MPH, the sedan should top out just a bit lower, maybe 129.5 MPH. If you are going that fast, does 1/2 MPH really make a differance? I think not.

And his mods more than make up for it being a sedan.
had everything he had,wasnt worth ending at 112
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Originally Posted by cobalt9123
call bullshit all you want..they had to redo my MAF because it was bad, and they forgot to put the governor on it( not sure how that happens, but i sat there for 3 hours waiting on them to tune it) and they had to make sure it was ok that they didn't put it back in(would take longer or some ****) i said it was fine.
Sedans are heavier.
and that wasn't to say sedans were inferior, it was to say that stock for stock a sedan 2.2 will get beat by a coupe 2.2
yes, i've raced at the track.
16.0 on my part, 16.7 on the gold sedan with cai and exhaust that raced me's part.
and both auto, no drivers race. both going from I-L-D wide open. same tires. no lost weight on either ones part.
That doesn't mean jack. Plus, if you dont mind, I'd like to see slips that say you ran 16.00 stock, because that sounds VERY questionable.

The weight difference between a sedan and coupe is ~40lbs, so the difference between the two is about as much as a difference of whether who took a **** before a race.
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I never said i was stock.
And 16.0 is extremely reasonable, the sedan wasn't stock either.
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Originally Posted by cobalt9123
I never said i was stock.
And 16.0 is extremely reasonable, the sedan wasn't stock either.
16.0 isnt reasonable in my eyes.

What kinda mods did you have done to achieve that?
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why would you need to say 16.0 is REASONABLE when you DID it at the track, you making this up dude?
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my idea failed 115 cutoff

i need someone with a 2.2 with the 140 speedo so i can take there pcm calibration and upload it to my pcm. everything should be compatible as far as engine, but if not i can just flash it back
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well i have a 2.2l and dont have a governer...can go as fast as i want...and pulls all the way there!!!

Originally Posted by madmark
my idea failed 115 cutoff

i need someone with a 2.2 with the 140 speedo so i can take there pcm calibration and upload it to my pcm. everything should be compatible as far as engine, but if not i can just flash it back
doesnt work...we have swapped a 140mph set of gauges into a 120 car...they are interchangable and have no effect on your speed limiter...tested...

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ha ha ha something funny bout people fight over running a 16 or not lol
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lol yeah no ****.. we already know that if its not an ss or sc/tc or sprayin that the 2.2 balts aint that fast.. i might would say high 16's would be reasonable... dont get me wrong i've had my fair share of wins in my 2.2 but i've had my ass handed to me just as many times before too.. now that we bout to have some programin we might be able to do a lil somethin though..
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Originally Posted by madmark
i havent tested it yet, but from what i hear you can change the tire size at gm and it should allow you to go faster. friday i changed my tire size but i havent tryed to test it yet

with the tech 2 i had the options for 15 16 17 inch tires

15's are rated at what 115?
16's are what 120ish?
17's would be ss/na that goes what 130?

i changed it to 16's, it shouldnt affect the cluster because the cobalt is run off the tcm so if it alters the speedo to much i can change it back but im going to test it
I believe my 15's are rated for 112.
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Originally Posted by blu3_v1p3r
i've put it at about 115, but it cuts out because of the gov. but yes it will go faster
OK, i got an '07 cobalt lt1 sedan 2.2L. Its auto and stock. My speedometer only goes up to 120. I was on the highway with no cars around going 115 my foot was not all the ways down on the accelerator so i know it could go faster. I slowed down b/c i saw a cop ahead of me. Btw whoever said it'll take miles to hit 115 with a stock cobalt, you're wrong, i hit it in way under 1 mile.
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Originally Posted by yellowltcoupe22
lol yeah no ****.. we already know that if its not an ss or sc/tc or sprayin that the 2.2 balts aint that fast.. i might would say high 16's would be reasonable... dont get me wrong i've had my fair share of wins in my 2.2 but i've had my ass handed to me just as many times before too.. now that we bout to have some programin we might be able to do a lil somethin though..
i ran 15.7 with intake and exhaust.....
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i've had a LS coupe up to 110 and after that it just died out

SS S/C on the other hand... try 145 lol. Doesn't even feel like it's going that fast. I almost shat myself when I looked down and saw the speedo.


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