NP05Cobalt

How many stages are there in a turbo and blow off valves? What all do i need to buy to get a turbo? and do i have to buy stages in order?

YellowLT

There are no stages in turbo's. There are Stage turbo Kits, but also right now there isnt a turbo kit for the 2.2 unless your making your own

Rusty

before continuing in your endeavor to successfully turbocharge your n/a 2.2 motor, perhaps you should do some research. stages have nothing to do with it. there is a lot that must be doen to successfully apply a forced induction setup to a n/a motor. my advice: READ READ READ! Google will be your best friend. Also talk to guys with Evo's, WRX/STi's, DSM (talon/eclipse/gvr4), supra's, etc about turbos.

NP05Cobalt

so is it better then to sueprcharge it?

Rusty

the question of whether a supercharger or a turbocharger is better is an age old question that essentially has no answer. each provides its on pros and cons with each application. for your particular application (the 2.2 ecotec), I would recomment a turbocharger application if you are looking for big HP numbers. If you are looking for something that is "quick" and gains power quicker but not looking for huge HP numbers, then a supercharger might be a better option.

If you decided turbocharger, there are a number of options as to which turbo you can get. Each one requiring different parts and different modifications to your car.

Same thing goes for a supercharger. you can get either a centrifugal s/c or a roots type blower (such as the SS S/C has).

The only difference between a centrigufal s/c and a turbo is that a turbo is driven by exhaust gases where a centrifugal is driven by a belt. All s/c's are belt driven, but a centrifugal s/c is very similar to a turbo. Again, please do research online to find out more about this.

Florida 76

yes turbos have stages stage 1 (just a turbo) stage 3 (add intercooler) stage 3 (add engine internals and a ECM)


lots of stage kits here.... http://www.turbo-kits.com/civic_turbo_kits.html


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slowion2

those are just flashy names a shop tacks on to sell their ****

IonNinja

pretty much

agreed, stages mean nothing...its just extra options shops give you to make a little extra money.

NP05Cobalt

so whats a good and cheap brand supercharger because i just want realy good take off and acceleration...

Shamrock

There really is only 1 stage to go with...

***** OUT!

NP05Cobalt

Today someone told me that there isnt even a supercharger out for the 2.2 engines yet

HackAbuse

They're right

NP05Cobalt

then how can some ppl have them?

HackAbuse

Noone has a turbo or any forced induction for that matter on a 2.2

Evilfrog

What?

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drag-racing-52/fast-ls-cobalt-16139/

There are plenty of turbocharged/supercharged 2.2 cavies out there.

HackAbuse

The cavy and the balt use different methods for intake sensors, the cobalt uses a MAF sensor which is different from the Cavy's intake sensor which makes it difficult to properly install a turbo/supercharger. Cavy SCs and Turbo's will not work on a cobalt without major modification

Evilfrog

If you notice in the link about, there is a 2.2 cobalt with a turbo on it.

NJHK

The physicality of a turbo setup has nothing to do with what type of sensor you use...the actual room, clearance and engine bay space you have does.

To the original poster and everyone else...SOMETIMES people refer to "stages" as the compressor wheel (example: Stage III wheel) but it really means nothing, just a gimmicky kind of thing.

I think Rusty pretty much said it dead on...you defenitley need to do more research on how turbocharger systems work. If you need any help, read my sig and you can find me on those forums and I would be gladly to help you or anyone else that needs help.

FYI: I have a Turbocharged 2003 Sunfire with a 2.2 ECOTEC

HackAbuse

I was just getting at the fact that noones developed a specific forced induction kit for our cars yet, i know a few cobalts have FI, but they have completely custom systems

NJHK

I knew what you meant, I was just pointing out the sensor issue. No flaming bro, it's all good

97CIVIC

YEAH FOR NOW

Brian MP5T

Stages are for Videogames like GT-4..

There are no industry standards for what a "Stage" is.

It's just something that companies use to sell the idea that one kit is better than the other. The number after the stage does not mean anything like "Oh Stage 3 has a FMIC but Stage Two Does Not"

Can you please stop posting Mis-information

Brian MP5T

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cobaltLStrubo

just so you know. the turbo that hahn racecraft makes for the 2005 cavalier can be altered to fit the cobalt 2.2 eco tec. for close to 400 dollars. I did it with mine and all they did was shorten some pipes and bend them around. it wasnt that hard for them to do and I have had it for about 5 months and it works great. 120 hp gain with the stage 3. The stage 2 is a safe bet. it isn't mush to upgrade to the 3. They are working on the stage 4 and 5 for the cobalt itself. just thought I would let you know. www.hahnracecraft.com

cobaltLStrubo

the reason it is more expensive for higher stages is becuase you get the internals to keep that turbo. you are not going to throw on a t4 turbo with no work. the stage is there to put your car at the MINIMUM to handle the boost. meaning. You will probably have to buy more to handle what the stage seels for the amount of boost you want