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Old 02-14-2011 | 08:34 PM
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So I plan to order new rods, pistons, head gasket, and head studs. I also plan to get new valves but I was wondering how much harder will it be to replace the valves if I'm in there to replace the rods and pistons? Will it be a lot harder and more work or will I have to remove the valves anyway to get to the rods and pistons? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
So I plan to order new rods, pistons, head gasket, and head studs. I also plan to get new valves but I was wondering how much harder will it be to replace the valves if I'm in there to replace the rods and pistons? Will it be a lot harder and more work or will I have to remove the valves anyway to get to the rods and pistons? Thanks.
dont forget rod and main bearings....no u wouldnt remove the valves they are in the head and will come in one piece with the head...if u wanna change them get some valvesprings and valves and have a shop put them in.
Old 02-14-2011 | 08:51 PM
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what do you mean rod and main bearings? And I'd just be doing the valves not the valve springs? Can I do it that way?
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what do you mean rod and main bearings? And I'd just be doing the valves not the valve springs? Can I do it that way?
look up rod and main bearing pics to see wat i mean...and u need springs before valves done but u have to take off the spring before u get the valve out.
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Ok so I'll have to pass on the new valves until I can afford springs. Do I need the main a new main bearing set?
Clevite Main Bearing Set Chevrolet Cavalier 2002-05 Cobalt 2005-10 2.2L Ecotec - Engine Internals - Turbo Tech Racing, LLC
Old 02-14-2011 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
Ok so I'll have to pass on the new valves until I can afford springs. Do I need the main a new main bearing set?
Clevite Main Bearing Set Chevrolet Cavalier 2002-05 Cobalt 2005-10 2.2L Ecotec - Engine Internals - Turbo Tech Racing, LLC
no sir just get them from gm they are a lotttttttt cheaper. get main bolts too

so from gm get main bolts..main bearings...rod bearings..should be less than 200 for all of it
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But do I need too? Like how absolutley necessary would it be to upgrade them?
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But do I need too? Like how absolutley necessary would it be to upgrade them?
u would need to do that before anything...if u put the old ones and it messes up ur changing every new part u just put in.
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Sorry to be, "that guy," but if you don't know the answer to these questions, you have no business doing that kind of work. You're going to end up spinning a bearing and having to pay someone else to do it anyway. These aren't lego blocks, they're precision machines and if you miss a tolerance or torque spec, forget a ring or even torque in the wrong order you could have serious problems.
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Sorry to be, "that guy," but if you don't know the answer to these questions, you have no business doing that kind of work. You're going to end up spinning a bearing and having to pay someone else to do it anyway. These aren't lego blocks, they're precision machines and if you miss a tolerance or torque spec, forget a ring or even torque in the wrong order you could have serious problems.
So don't be that guy? And I never said I personally was doing these repairs myself. I will be having a shop do these installs though. And I just wanted to know so I can be sure what parts to get. But I do 100% need these new rod bearings, etc. parts? Is there a good place to get all of them from for the best price?
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
So I plan to order new rods, pistons, head gasket, and head studs. I also plan to get new valves but I was wondering how much harder will it be to replace the valves if I'm in there to replace the rods and pistons? Will it be a lot harder and more work or will I have to remove the valves anyway to get to the rods and pistons? Thanks.
Sorry I know how to read properly and am watching out for your best interest. If the shop is worth two ***** they will be able to help you get a parts list together free of charge. You will need all new bearings, rings, if you are replacing the valves the seats may need to be machined for a safety angle depending on the condition of the head, etc. Make an appointment with someone at the shop to talk about it and figure things out. Most importantly, give yourself a $500+ margin of error for anything they may need to replace due to wear or something that happens in the process. It almost always costs more than you expect.

What exactly are your goals? Things like bearings and rings always need to be replaced, but others are just nice extras that you are better off just replacing while the head is off the block.
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Sorry I said that just to be simpler than saying the shop or whatever. But my goals are just to increase the internals so I don't blow them up. Mostly new rods and pistons. The valves and valvesprings will have to wait. But for now I'm going to be doing the rods and pistons and replacing the head gasket and head studs.
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
Sorry I said that just to be simpler than saying the shop or whatever. But my goals are just to increase the internals so I don't blow them up. Mostly new rods and pistons. The valves and valvesprings will have to wait. But for now I'm going to be doing the rods and pistons and replacing the head gasket and head studs.
OK, then yes, you will need new bearings and rings, you will want pins too, but those often come with a piston set.
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I'm gonna get this kit. Wiseco Pistons Eagle Rods Chevy Cobalt Ecotec 2.2L L61 - eBay (item 270620005828 end time Mar-07-11 13:23:16 PST)
It comes with rings and pins, so then all I'll need is a bearing set right?
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
I'm gonna get this kit. Wiseco Pistons Eagle Rods Chevy Cobalt Ecotec 2.2L L61 - eBay (item 270620005828 end time Mar-07-11 13:23:16 PST)
It comes with rings and pins, so then all I'll need is a bearing set right?
We can price match that, order through us, and support this site and its vendors (PM us)
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You shouldve said this before I ordered...wth
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You shouldve said this before I ordered...wth
Members need to ask vendors here... We dont know what is all out there.
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Well youre a vendor...People arent gonna ask you to cut down prices because we think your prices are set in stone unless offered in a group buy...
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Well youre a vendor...People arent gonna ask you to cut down prices because we think your prices are set in stone unless offered in a group buy...
We get many PM's each day requesting this... What you are stating is not the case for all
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I did ask you to price match that and you said no.

btw they went as low as $740 shipped.

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I did ask you to price match that and you said no.

btw they went as low as $740 shipped.
Yes, we could not do that, but we can price match their standard ebay listing.
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how come?
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how come?
Because that is below cost? Not sure how they get them that cheap. They may have extra inventory they just want to move and dont care if they loose $.
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Originally Posted by kxrida2000
dont forget rod and main bearings....no u wouldnt remove the valves they are in the head and will come in one piece with the head...if u wanna change them get some valvesprings and valves and have a shop put them in.
where do you suggest I get the rod and main bearings from and also what is a good heavy duty brand?
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just from gm for the bearings



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