Red06LS

I doubt if this is a big secret but ive never seen anything made to cool the intake temps for N/A cars and ive always thought this would be benificial. Check it out.

Heres a link to the orginal site. Its from CryO2, which i know a few people on here have used.
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=4

Then here's a better pic of the "bulb" so you get the idea.


Comment, Good idea for the 2.2 and 2.4 guys to get some more HP or ???.....

NJHK

From what I hear it does drop the temperatures but how much...not alot.

It wouldn't drop temps like a nitrous injection or water/meth injection setup though.

Red06LS

On the site it says it drops it 50F. Im not sure how much the intake temps have to drop to be benificial. Ya i know its not as good as Nos or meth but for some one like me nos is A: to spendy and B: to dangerous (to motor),and isint meth only for FI cars? So thats why this seem apealing to me.

NJHK

Nitrous can get spendy but if you're looking for a nice temp drop, it would do the job.

Nitrous is just as dangerous as forced induction...if done improperly you can have some type of issue.

Water/Meth Injection is for any condition. The benefits of doing this is that it kind of acts as race fuel not only dropping your intake temps but changing your a/f ratio to a richer mixture, so if you were capable of advancing timing, you could and run absolutely fine when you were spraying.

To add

I think the 50 Degrees note on the site is a hypothetical possibility of a drop in temp, kind of like if K & N said you would COULD gain UP TO 15 HP.

Red06LS

"Dyno testing showed a reduction in intake air temperature of more than 50 degrees"

In the perfect world on a dyno they got 50F. But in the real world when its 105F (like it is here) 50F might be alot to ask.

Moza13-

not worth the money imo, better to just get an intake and full exhaust if your looking for cheap(er) power from your 2.2. only cooler i would think about getting is a tranny cooler but we dont even need one of those, were not pushing the motor at all.

NJHK

Your IATs are going higher than the outside temperature and not exact. If it's 75 out, your IAts could be 90 degrees which isn't necessarily bad.

Red06LS

But i guess its not really worth the money even if it was to just keep it closer to the outside temps.

On a side note: has any one had a set up where they could monitor the intake temps??

Jn2

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i read on a magazine somewhere that every 10 degrees=1% hp increase

HunterKiller89

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interceptors can read IATs

cakeeater

a 50 degree temp drop for an n/a car is pretty much worthless. Probably 4-5 hp. The only reason you see such gains from temp drops on forced induction cars is because the lower the temps, the more aggressive you can tune the damn thing with a given fuel while still being in a safe range. usually with an n/a car 10-11* temp drop = .5-1% hp increase depending on the setup. Now with meth, like NJHK said, you get other benefits. The meth effectively increases the octane level of the fuel so you can bump timing etc. But again, this isn't very beneficial unless you are running real high compression or you are forced induction. People think cooling the temps is the key because nitrous is cold. Less than 1/10 the power increase you get from nitrous actually comes from the lowered IAT's that come with it. the power increase is from nitrous oxidizing and increasing the amount of oxygen particles or atoms per unit of ambient air, which creates a stronger combustion and more power. skip this and get a small nitrous shot if you are gonna go this route, or just wait and go forced induction then get an intercooler sprayer or something, these setups are stupid unless you have some damn high IAT's.

Red06LS

makes sence ^.

OrngBalt

Maybe my eyes are fuzzy, maybe I'm being dumb, or maybe my coworker is just pissing me off....

BUT I don't get it... whats it do? how's it work?

Red06LS

You put that piece of pipe like before your filter on your CAI and then there is a little bulb in the middle of it that gets filled with N20 and intales makes the bulb really cold so as air passes by it it cools the air going in to your TB. but its ben concluded that if your not crazly built or forced induction it wond do **** for you.

OrngBalt

Ok, thanks. I see it now. I didnt realize that one picture was a cut out so you could see the bulb. LOL. like I said... long day and eyes are fuzzy. its an interesting idea. and definitely different.

Here is what I wonder... and I am in no way qualified to answer this.... but would the resistance caused by having the bulb in place blocking air be compensated by the temperature drop that would be achieved? Not to mention the area that is cooling the air is going to be quite small so it is just a brief blast of cold.

I would think a small tube running through the middle of the intake piping would serve the same purpose while creating less resistance and have an extended cooling effect. just my .02

NJHK

Great Post.

+1 rep

cakeeater

why thank you sir

NJHK

You're welcome