Raz

Hi guys

Been reading alot the last couple of days.


I've got an 05 Pursuit 4Dr with the 2.2 BASE model

It already moves pretty good for an econobox (where i'm from cars like this have a 1.6 motor usually)

I understand my car has roughly 145 horse right now (at the crank), I bought it used for 8 grand, and it has 50k on it. Black on Black

Already done the airbox mod, but I'm going to go grab that retardedly cheap intake from jdmsomethingorotherparts.com (the 40 dollar one), can't hardly make one for that little


Pacesetter header with DP and no-cat-back, seems to be the cheapest solution around, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to wind up buying a nice full-length header (whats the cheapest full length, or cheapest header solution period?) and just doing a custom 3' from there into a good muffler. Local muffler shops charge **** all for cutting and welding, custom exhaust system WITH muffler is around a hundred buckaroos.

Whats the cheapest way to get myself a 2.4 intake mani? Who has the adapter for cheap/free?

Anything else I can do?

Cheapest way to lower car? SS/SC Springs? or no?

Thanks guys, hope I can get some input

- R

REIGN SS

...cheap, fast, reliable

You can only have two of the three, choose wisely

omgshesaboy

i hate the word cheap, inexpensive makes it sound so much better with performance parts

HidKidSS

x2 lol so true...cheap makes it sound like you custom fabbing an intake wit bubble gum duck tape an a paper towel tube lmao

balt21

QFT!
ZZP seems to be the popular header followed by vibrant. you dont need a 3inch exhaust unless your going to go turbo; a 2.5 will do you good. CED has the 2.4 intake manifold for like $250 or something close to that. hope that helps.

REIGN SS

get a ZZP header/DP combo, Pacesetter exhaust, intake, and a Cosmo Short Throw(manual) or B&M ShiftPlue(automatic)

Raz

Thanks, I've heard that childrens rhyme for the last 13 years of playing with cars, do you want me to recite bah bah blacksheep?

Cheap is an arbitrary value denoted to a product. Do you know that an Autometer Gauge from China costs less than 3 dollars when bought in bulk packages of 5000? - And you think you're getting a deal and a half when you shell out 49.95 for a boost gauge... Silly folk

Go ahead, spend more... doesn't mean you're making more power



I'm from the volvo world in tuning, where 50 dollars gets you ... well, alot of horsepower
All though it's a different league, what with turbocharging and all, there is still power to be made cheaply.

intake and exhaust is just plumbing, I have no reason to pay more or less for it if all I need it to do is flow?

So, anyways, if you guys have nothing but "witty" comments, and no actual new information to contribute, please don't bother posting

- R

REIGN SS

...if you are "all knowing" then use the search tool and find the info yourself.

It has been discussed 100x before anyways

Raz

The ZZP stuff is pretty expensive. The pacesetter header is OK bang for buck? or no?

I'm interested in the Cosmo short throw shifter, it works for the F23 gearbox? (2.2 manuals, non-sc were the 170lb/ft F23 afaik)


Cheapest lowering springs? Best handling mods for the money? strut braces / anti-sway bars?

- R


I wish I was all knowing And most of this stuff has been covered in detail, just thought I'd use this as a way to see if anyone was selling anything used, also I wanted to say hi and introduce my car a bit


- R

REIGN SS

Yes, the cosmo shifter works

Raz

Cool thanks!


Another quick question, looking at my wheels that are 4-lugs, they look like a revamped honda hub, will any old 4x100 honda wheel or toyota wheel work?

What's the offset of the stock 15" steelies?

Are there good after market brakes available for the front rotors of my car? if so, where and how much? The stock front rotors are developing serious brake material deposits "fake warpage" and I constantly have to cycle them to get them straight again .. Don't want to do that anymore ...

- R

HidKidSS

reign i bet ur head hurts doesnt it ''noobs make my brain hurt!'' lol ughhhh

steddy2112

iTrader: (1)

You have a 2.2


Go up above the BIG WORDS COBALTSS.NET

There is a forum jump thing.

Click on it.

Click on 2.2 tech.

Voila.

Raz

Your English hurts my brain...

heh, thanks I'm sure there is some subtle sarcasm in there, as we are discussing a thread in said sub-forum. Thanks for your input thoe

HidKidSS

read his qoute ******* b4 u attemp 2 talk ****...use the search botton if you cant find what your looking for the post other then that nice attemp 2 b a d bag but not workin

REIGN SS

Yes, and 4x100 wheel should work, even those from a honda, generally 35-42 offset is acceptable for the cobalt.

I think TurboTech Racing sells nice rotors and pads for the 2.2, more then a few of our vendors sell them. You can find a list of our vendors here: https://www.cobaltss.net/vendorindex.php

And yes, the stock rotors are FTL

balt21

im not sure what the stock offset of the stock wheel is but i think anywhere from +38 to +45 will fit. most people have +40 or 42 i believe. go to turbo tech racings website to look for brakes.

REIGN SS

easy killer

REIGN SS

As for springs, yes the SS/SC springs are probably the cheapest but you will only get a small drop...

tREBs

you guys need to settle down... both HIDkid and raz

raz come check out our local section under the "regional" heading, some good guys there more then willing to help, and also like above mentioned there is a 2.2 section.

welcome to the boards and hopefully we can meet u at a few meets this year!

Raz

sounds good

Thanks for all the input guys!


Just found pacesetter header for the LSJ, 1.75 primaries into 3" collector, for a dollar less than the 1.5 pri into 2.5 ...

Same block, should bolt up... Visa card here it comes

REIGN SS

...don't bother with the 3" it's a waste on the 2.2

And what are you going to use for a downpipe?

Raz

Back pressure is irrelevant, especially with variable valve timing.

trust me, bigger IS better. Flow ftw


and a dollar less for more flow? == win


I'll just make a downpipe, it's just plumbing

balt21

ok for 1 the 2.2 does not have VVT, the 2.4 does. secondly bigger is NOT always better. if that were the case why dont you just take your entire exhaust system off. you need to have a balance between backpressure and exhaust velocity. if you have too big of an exhaust system there will be no vaccum created from the exhaust exiting the cylinder. this reduces exhaust scavenging and does not let the engine run as effiecientlyas it could, especially in the low end (loss of torque).

REIGN SS

NA exhaust is a bit different the Turbo exhaust