turbo06ss

i am looking for some ideas to do to my 2.2 to get a little more performance out of my cobalt thanks for any help

hatrickstu

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i dont know man but i would suggest you use the search feature, i think it would be helpful

RedBaseBolt

Searching adds 5 hp.

Intake Header and Exhaust are the only other options at the moment.

bluechevyss05

its junk, i own one, they are slow without forced induction, enough said

SS33

People around here will be extremely helpful to you if you do a little more reSEARCH first before asking such general questions. Look around on here and j-body.org and ecotecforum.com they are good sources of info on the 2.2 eco block.

But to answer your question, there isn't alot you can do right now aside from basic bolt-ons. Forced induction will be the way to go for all the 2.2 gus as soon as they can crack the cobalts computer.

bluechevyss05

exactly

turbo06ss

i have search the board and also the web just cant realy find anything that seams 2 work. i put exhaust on it, that helped a little. i did the air box mods,once again that help. i got some nos stuff laying around guess ill try that next. i got a 50mm turbo just laying around guess ill try that if the spray dont work. well thanks for the info guys

black06ss

were you at cenetrville this weekend?

NJHK

Depends on how much power you're aiming for, how much money you want to spend and if you plan on going forced induction, what type of fuel management are you going to use?

BlueThunder2006

Anything short of forced induction on a 2.2 is basically pointless.

turbo06ss

yes black06ss i was there in my slow ass ride

hectanooga

Pretty much. Just get something with a V8.

D4u2s0t

pointless in what sense? with I/H/E you're looking at about a 12% increase in HP, and even more increase in torque... granted we're not talking about huge numbers here, but 12% isn't that bad of an increase...

BlueThunder2006

I was simply stating that you cannot make "significant" gains on a 2.2 without F/I.

D4u2s0t

dnbguy86

yes correct, 12% of 145hp is somewhere around 17ish extra hp, not bad for just basic bolt ons...

NJHK

but less power to the wheels. Can't always count on crank horsepower.

NJHK

Not true.

If you know what you're doing and know how to "engineer correctly" than you can make significant power in other ways.

BlueThunder2006

Well, that could be said of anything. You could turn-up a Lawn Boy if you REALLY wanted to...

What I'm getting at is, the only way you're going to make power with a 2.2 is to spend a rather large sum of money. F/I is the "practical" way to do it, and I'm sure you know first-hand how much that costs. I don't know about 'other' methods, but I'm sure none of them are 'frugal' mods- you're going to be emptying the wallet no matter what.

I've actually had this discussion with a couple people lately, and here is what I've told them: I am NOT spending close to (or over) a grand for 15 HP. If anyone else wants to, that's their business and I'm not bashing/criticizing them. The only reason I said anything in this thread was to let the topic-starter know that he isn't going to make 'serious' power gains cheaply or easily.

Remember too that 'significant' is a relative term. To someone else, 15 HP maybe 'significant'. To me, it's reasonable but not for the amount of money needed to make it happen. I think my car has enough power for what it is- a daily-driver. I bought it for economy, not performance. It's not a race car by any means, nor do I intend it to be. For that reason, I will not spend that kind of money for noise and a couple more HP.

Having said that, I will again say that I'm not bashing/criticizing anyone else. To each his/her own. Hopefully I haven't offended anyone.

mike25

lmao sure does 5 hp right off...yea those mods^^^ are about all your gonna see on most peoples cars right now unless you get nitrous...which i dont particularly care for...or make a custom supercharger or turbo setup..good luck on that though

IonNinja

I only spent about $630 on intake, header and exhaust...I think I did pretty good.

My nitrous setup will be about 1G but its worth it

I do also agree that the N/A route is not cost effective.

turbo06ss

ya know when i started the i did not know much about 4 cyl. but this much i have have found out like blue said.." you cant do anything with f/I, and i looked at that its going to take 3500 to put a turbo on my car and i may see 100 whp incress at the tires. i have a 95 ford ranger that has a 306 small block ford in it. i have only spent 4000 on it and it is over 500 on motor and i spray 200 on top of that . so quess i stay with the ranger for racing and keep my cobalt and its 34mpg and leave it alone thanks for the help yall gave me

NJHK

I fully agree with you and understand what you're saying. The only reason I made a comment was because you kind of did make a broad statement but I'm sure you knew there is more to the game than forced induction.

I really do agree with you about spending $1,000 for 15 HP...realistically, that's what bolt ons are. I've gone through this myself and if I knew what I know now, I would have never wasted my money on the bolt ons that aren't beneficial to me now (example: intake, header etc.).

But everyone has different routes and goals, so of course, no putting down anyone who just want an intake and a few other modifications but to those who think they are going to gain big or like you said "significant power" from bolt on modifications, they are sadly mistaken.