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Old 06-27-2006, 08:39 PM
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Wide band or narrow band O2 sensors??

The air/fuel gauge I have on order will not work with a wide band 02 sensor. Do the 2.2's have wide band or narrow band?
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Stock all cars have a narrowband. A wideband is something you install to tune with. It is a much more accurate interpretation of what your actual A/F ratio is.
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Thank you. I know **** when it comes to sensors.
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what wideband did u order
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Originally Posted by bykryder83
what wideband did u order
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you must have mis-read. I ordered a air/fuel gauge from Autometer (sport comp series) along with a nitrous pressure and fuel pressure.
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We have a wideband O2, at least on the 2.2s. It allows you to measure the A/F ratio when very lean. .

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no you don't, the 2.2's have a narrowband sensor on them. putting a gauge on a narrowband o2 isn't going to do much but tell you when you're very very rich or very very lean, or entertain you with a bouncing LED light show LOL

I know one model of civic, maybe an HX or VX or CX, had a wideband stock, I was very suprised, but not many cars do from the factory

if you're concerned with your a/f ratio that much spend the money on a wideband o2 so you have info you can actually use.
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Hmmm I swore the GM trainer told me it had a wideband... I was told it had a lean burn system similar to Toyota's... You may be right though, I don't see anything about it in Mitchell...
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Originally Posted by patathSS
Stock all cars have a narrowband. A wideband is something you install to tune with. It is a much more accurate interpretation of what your actual A/F ratio is.
interesting point to mention. the new turbo vw's have a wideband stock....cool stuff
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ALMOST every car has a narrow band stock. all tho there are a few who have a ..i beleve the RX8 has a WB stock.

our cars have narrow bands no matter what model.

you can tie your AFR gauge into your stock 02 sensor but it'll be pretty useless!!!

the only thing a narrow band will tell you is eather EXTREME rich or lean...often to late to do anything before somethin bad can/has happen.

gauge such as AEM's UEGO have a bosh wideband that comes with the gauge...also inovative(sp?) sells a similer(sp?) set up.

hope that helps.
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dumb question.... im throiwng a code because of my header and cat, will a wideband fix this since im replacing the o2 sensor?(its a 2.2)
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Wide band!!!
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Originally Posted by biohazard
dumb question.... im throiwng a code because of my header and cat, will a wideband fix this since im replacing the o2 sensor?(its a 2.2)
No.

a wide band or narrow band will not fix the problum.

if you dont have a cat anymore do to your set up you eather need a 02simulater OR HPtuner's to turn of that specific 02sensor.
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Originally Posted by Alex47
Wide band!!!

HUH???
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Originally Posted by biohazard
dumb question.... im throiwng a code because of my header and cat, will a wideband fix this since im replacing the o2 sensor?(its a 2.2)
i thought that with a wideband setup you add a sensor to your exhaust stream and that you don't remove the two existing 02 sensors?

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Originally Posted by IonNinja
i thought that with a wideband setup you add a sensor to your exhaust stream and that you don't remove the two existing 02 sensors.
you sir are correct!!!!!!

you can also use tuneing softwear to get in side the ECU and turn off 1 or more of your 02 sensors.
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Originally Posted by 06black
.....you can also use tuneing softwear to get in side the ECU and turn off 1 or more of your 02 sensors.
Tuning software for the 2.2???
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Originally Posted by orangecobalt
Tuning software for the 2.2???
HAHAHAAH
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sry my bad....i know HP is doe the 2.0 but isnt there a place out there that tunes the 2.2/2.4 i know theres a vender on here"tune time performace" or somethin like that that tunes the non 2.0 motors i bet they can shut the 02 sensors off.
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the 2.4 has tuning capabilities but nothing for the 2.2 as of yet.
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i have a cat, just its high flow mixed with a header, throws the code..... the cat had to be relocated and the o2 simulator wont fit, it hits the floorboard...... if i eventualy get a HP tuners thing to tuurn off the o2 sensor when a 2.2 program comes out, will the ppl be able to tell that its turned off when i go do emitions?
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
i thought that with a wideband setup you add a sensor to your exhaust stream and that you don't remove the two existing 02 sensors?
Correct.
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Originally Posted by biohazard
i have a cat, just its high flow mixed with a header, throws the code..... the cat had to be relocated and the o2 simulator wont fit, it hits the floorboard...... if i eventualy get a HP tuners thing to tuurn off the o2 sensor when a 2.2 program comes out, will the ppl be able to tell that its turned off when i go do emitions?
why'd u have to relocate the cat with the Pacesetter?
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
i thought that with a wideband setup you add a sensor to your exhaust stream and that you don't remove the two existing 02 sensors?
Sorry for bumping a 3-week old thread but I've been reading up on this and it seems like the Innovate LC-1 and AEM UEGO both have narrowband outputs that can relay data back to the ECM. I would read that as meaning you could replace the primary o2 sensor with the new wideband sensor and then jack into the wiring harness, and the computer would never know the difference. Seems a bit cleaner than welding in an extra bung you don't need, and one less sensor to replace should one ever die. I talked to a few friends about using the secondary o2 sensor, however, and they said not to; anything after the cat would provide inaccurate readings.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2947

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6606
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ok so now that we have around about this....here is my question....im about to install a stand alone mod controller and it does control A/F ratios....what do i need to do to accurately measure my mix....i assume it is just install a WB sensor and guage...correct?


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