2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 09-19-2006, 03:12 PM
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coil packs are simple to get a signal
Old 09-19-2006, 03:27 PM
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coil packs are simple to get a signal
and where are those? how do they connect to them ? lol. i dont know much about that kinda stuff.
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just wondering if you got the car dynoed or not, and if so what was your numbers
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
o, so you like ricer math i guess...

we don't like paper racers
Actually I could give a crap how much power a car puts down on a dyno...


Because once again dynos are for tuning. Track times are what matters. If people only cared about numbers they could just race on dynos.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
well if nobody ever made a base line dyno and another after certain mods, nobody on here would know what the mods did. You can't really trust the company because the gains are always rediculously big because they do the baseline on a really hot humid day, or stuff like that.
And guess what a normal every day person's dyno will change the same way,

dynos are for tuning
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lol, well looks like its going to have to be some other day. they couldnt freaking figure out how to find my tach wire or whatever, because the computer need to read my rpms. they know how to do it on an 05 but ohhh no 06 they dont. so yeah. they said to call back in a day or two.
I had a feeling that was going to happen...
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
Actually I could give a crap how much power a car puts down on a dyno...


Because once again dynos are for tuning. Track times are what matters. If people only cared about numbers they could just race on dynos.
Not everyone is a track racer.

Regardless, dynos serve a purpose like you said...tuning. Him going to the dyno right now is to see where he is starting from...a starting point. From there, he can start to see how much he has gained between changing parts and seeing the gains or losses between things. It's a good idea but most people don't do it.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
Not everyone is a track racer.

Regardless, dynos serve a purpose like you said...tuning. Him going to the dyno right now is to see where he is starting from...a starting point. From there, he can start to see how much he has gained between changing parts and seeing the gains or losses between things. It's a good idea but most people don't do it.
The gain or possible loss of an intake can be offsetted(sp? a word??) by dynoing on different days.
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
The gain or possible loss of an intake can be offsetted(sp? a word??) by dynoing on different days.
True but ultimately, this is just a start. Who knows what he'll finish with. If he does things in stages, like bolt ons...then boost...it's good to know where you start and where you finish. That's my case.

So if he dynos at 125 whp and then changes something and dynos at 140 whp (example), it's showing his improvement and that he's actually gaining instead of losing.
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superss/sc i agree with NJHK its good to get a baseline dyno...seeing where u are starting at is always a good idea no matter if u can tune or not....just sounds like to me your bashing a 2.2 guy b/c he wanted to know....u just need to lay off dude
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Originally Posted by 06cobaltls
just wondering if you got the car dynoed or not, and if so what was your numbers
no, if you look up there, they are lame and couldnt figure out how to find the wires for my tach or something like that so the comp couldnt read my rpms so it was pointless, they told me to try back in a couple of days

anyone know how to find it?
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I know that if the shop couldn't find your tach wire you should find a new shop....
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isnt exhausts/intakes etc. tuning as well? just not doing it at the dyno? and its not necessarily just for tuning :

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I will be dyno'ing my car on Saturday hopefully. I will have no performance mods only Eibach Sport Lines, Camber Kit, and 18x8 Axis Wide Tracks. This way I know where I am starting and after intake/exhaust I will dyno again so I, and CSS.Net, will know what gains we make from the simplest modifications.
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Originally Posted by 05sedan
superss/sc i agree with NJHK its good to get a baseline dyno...seeing where u are starting at is always a good idea no matter if u can tune or not....just sounds like to me your bashing a 2.2 guy b/c he wanted to know....u just need to lay off dude
You need to not try to stir up crap. I think it is dumb for anybody in any car to go dyno just to see what number it will be. If I see 2.0/2.4 guys getting baselines just for the number I will be sure to speak up.

Either way we are of different schools of thought.
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
Actually I could give a crap how much power a car puts down on a dyno...


Because once again dynos are for tuning. Track times are what matters. If people only cared about numbers they could just race on dynos.
track times mean **** to tons of people. i will never run my car down a drag strip so whats do track times do for me?

wtf is wrong with getting a baseline and didnt you start the "Stirring of the Crap"
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Originally Posted by Listerman
track times mean **** to tons of people. i will never run my car down a drag strip so whats do track times do for me?

wtf is wrong with getting a baseline and didnt you start the "Stirring of the Crap"
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So are you going to say dyno numbers are more important than track times???

I've already explained what is wrong with getting a baseline one day at the dyno just for the number. You get a baseline.... the same day add intake/exhaust, dyno again tune a bit and dyno again. Not 3 baseline pulls, wait a month add intake/exhaust and dyno again. Like I said waste of time, gas, and money.
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to me numbers mean more the track times. i give 2 ***** less if you can do a 1/4 faster then me. is there something wrong with the way i think?

that waste of time gas and money is irrelevant. you probably burn more gas slamming it down the track then i do. i get 3 pulls for 50 bucks and i can tune in between, add a mod, or whatever. that may not be available to everyone but some are still willing to pay.

who cares if you think one way and i think another. its our thoughts and we all dont want to be like you. we want a number, you dont. yippie skippie.
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Originally Posted by listermen
to me numbers mean more the track times. i give 2 ***** less if you can do a 1/4 faster then me. is there something wrong with the way i think?

that waste of time gas and money is irrelevant. you probably burn more gas slamming it down the track then i do. i get 3 pulls for 50 bucks and i can tune in between, add a mod, or whatever. that may not be available to everyone but some are still willing to pay.

who cares if you think one way and i think another. its our thoughts and we all dont want to be like you. we want a number, you dont. yippie skippie.
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Either way we are of different schools of thought.
I get 3-10 runs for 20 bucks and I can tune in between, add a mod, or whatever.
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i like doing both, i'll try to go to the track tonight too, only 1/8 mile though, they dont have a 1/4 near me.
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Originally Posted by nomoreavril
i like doing both, i'll try to go to the track tonight too, only 1/8 mile though, they dont have a 1/4 near me.
good luck, go around the water box, have fun, report back
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beat my time, and yes, go around the burnout box so u dont drag water on the track
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
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So are you going to say dyno numbers are more important than track times???

I've already explained what is wrong with getting a baseline one day at the dyno just for the number. You get a baseline.... the same day add intake/exhaust, dyno again tune a bit and dyno again. Not 3 baseline pulls, wait a month add intake/exhaust and dyno again. Like I said waste of time, gas, and money.

when you havea new car and dont have alot of experience racing, getting a baseline dyno and dynoing again after mods will actually probably give you a better estimate of what you gained....see, i could go to the strip and run a 15.0 best of the day, then 3 days late, i could go run a 14.8 with the same setup because of humidity changes, temp change, or even just because i was driving better that day. If you really think it is pointless to dyno unless you are tuning, then why dyno ever? Just go to the track and tune like that, it is obviously so much more accurate
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
when you havea new car and dont have alot of experience racing, getting a baseline dyno and dynoing again after mods will actually probably give you a better estimate of what you gained....see, i could go to the strip and run a 15.0 best of the day, then 3 days late, i could go run a 14.8 with the same setup because of humidity changes, temp change, or even just because i was driving better that day. If you really think it is pointless to dyno unless you are tuning, then why dyno ever? Just go to the track and tune like that, it is obviously so much more accurate
It isn't more accurate to strip or street tune compared to dyno tune. But for what you guys are saying you need baselines for, the strip could provide the same baseline for less money.
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yeah, i only did the burnout box the first time i went to the track in january, i then learned with street tires its just a waste lol, so i always ignore it. i'm hoping i'll do better than in my focus, in my focus my best was 10.79@64, but it was over 100 degrees and i had an automatic so we'll see. anyone know the best way to launch in these cars? not used to launching manuals... i know if i do it at like 2k rpms i can start off slow but barely spin out, or if i do it at like 4k then i spin out quite a bit but it doesnt feel as slow


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