409Cobalt07

How will it work with running juice with it bein colder in the winter? Any problems? or is that sovled with a bottle warmer? Just wondering cause i am thinking of doin this around December and i want to cover all the angles before i go purchase the goods and not use it. I know that there has been both good and bad things said about goin with a nitrous kit and i just really need to find out. Thanks in advance...

shawn672

ur gonna spray in the winter? well it is texas, doesnt get colder then like 40 degrees right? you shouldnt have an issue. up north i'd be more weary where it gets -20 some nights in NY and higher up

409Cobalt07

it does get below 30 but not very often. i was discussing this with my boss today and he really coudnt give me a deff answer. he just went throught this big explanation and then looked at me and said.... Right? not a very big help...

i was thinkin of it? that what i m tryin to figure out... if i want to go to the track in the winter i dont know if i should spray or not...

rick1217

well, I am no expert with nitrous but cold air=dense/more air...nitrous=cooler/denser air.... depending on how much you spray, you might run into fueling problems.... it is a wet kit?? if you do, I wouldnt spray very much, maybe 25-50 shot?? I couldnt say for sure though cause i have never used nitrous before but i understand how it works...

409Cobalt07

i was thinkin of running a wet 75 but i have no idea of what to do in the winter time... cause i dont want get everything too cold...(is that possible?) if so i guess ill just have to change it when i get down in temps...

Spanky's Monkey

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once the engine is properly warmed up it won't get too cool.

Rangerondubz

Spray before the maf and you will be good the computer will compinsate for extra fuel when it notices that the air is colder.

Spanky's Monkey

iTrader: (6)

i wouldn't base the nozzle position off that fact. this has been known to throw cel's. the comp won't be able to supply the adequate amount of full using that method. just get a wet kit and spray between the maf and throttle body.

an0malous

i would be using a wideband if you arent already

halfj99

i just wouldnt do it...

RBC

It Texas it won't make a bit of diffrence to your engine if you are at or around running temp. I miss the Texas winter track times. The only thing you will have to worry about is your bottle pressure. Run a bottle heater to keep your pressure up and you will do just fine. We have done this from Geo's to Porsche's.

409Cobalt07

ok guys. that clears it up alot for me thanks to everyone..

IonNinja

in the winter, nitrous works no different than any other time of the year.

the only difference is going to be that your bottle pressure will be absolute crap if its cold out at night, around 600psi so you most definitely need a bottle warmer or your shots are gonna be so weak.

IonFeright

I would think that your car would perform even better in the winter do to cooler temps. You'll just have to wait longer for the bottle to heat up but once its at your desired psi youre all set.

shawn672

wouldn't the loss in traction almost make up for the benefit of the colder air? i'd say you might gain .1-.2 seconds at most maybe?? not sure, once winter hits here, its 5ft snow everyday..

i would imagine the best time to run is right in the fall season when the air is cold at night, but the track is hot from the sun beatin on it all day.

cakeeater

you guys are buying into the cold air = gobs of power misconception. The cooler iat's due to nitrous give you probably 6-7% of the power gain you see from nitrous. The majority of the power gain is because you are increasing the ratio of oxygen to other elements/compounds per unit of air pulled into your combustion chamber. I wouldn't worry too much about it at all if you have a wet kit/good enough fueling system. If you are real worried, go get a winter tune once it is cold outside and maybe a wideband for EXTRA safety.

Delta2.2

why not after the MAF?? ok please elaborate and discuss

shawn672

because people actually believe that if you spray before the maf, the maf will compensate for extra power and magically dump more fuel...WRONG

the maf can only make tiny changes, 1-3% in fuel changes due to air changes.

Wet kits only, and obviously after the maf, especially with a wet kit

RBC

With a good track prep and busy night in Texas you will only see benefits. The tracks I used to run at were filled with cars that lay down nice, hot, thick, rubber for cars lick ours to thrive on. For example I had a stock 03 Cavalier that I was able to dump the clutch at 4.5 grand and achieve a 2.0'(9.9 1/8 track) time on stock tires NO BS until I snapped an axle I will see if I can find the slip for the negative people. So you can get traction in the winter, IF you are in Texas.

409Cobalt07

i went just last weekend to the track and the best i coluld get was a 2.4 60ft. and i was launchin at about 2500. i tried a different rpm each time and i either bogged or spun like crazy. that was the best i could do.

IonFeright

I would reccomend launching at a higher rpm and learning how to pedal better. I launch at around 4000 rpm's and I rarely bog out.

409Cobalt07

i only bog when i go below like 2000 and any where above 2500 i spin. guess ill just have to get out to the track more. im goin not this weekend but next with a friend of mine who has a SS/SC. we are guna see what the has before he installs his stage 2. hope he can launch better than me

IonFeright

Yeah just raelly work on your pedaling and dont ever drop the clutch. Ive tried launching from all kinds of rpms and Ive found (with a little help from some of the forum guys) that high rpms is where its at.

The ss/sc on the other hand have too much instant power to launch that high. iirc the best 60ft times posted by an lsj were done launching from idle.

409Cobalt07

really? i would expect that from an auto but not form a stick... o well learn somethin everyday

Spanky's Monkey

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the lsj guys were experincing bad wheel hop luanching at high rpm. too much power to the wheel makes em dance the jig in first and second.