yellowshowbalt

so i was at the track last night and on my first run i dident even move 5 foot. the trans snaped the input shaft again. this is the 3rd trans. in 18000 miles first it was the 2.2 that went at 15000 then it was the 2.0 SS that went at 22000 and now the last one went at 32000 and it was the 2.4 SS with the G85 package and its broke. i all so took the old trans to a pro transmission shop and asked them to make it stronger they kept it for 2 weeks and then asked me to come get it. becouse there was nouthing they could do to it besides put in a couple of bearings like for instance. if it has a 6 ball bearing they could put it a 8-10 ball bearing in there and thats about it there is not enough room or metal to take away and put stronger gears or input shafts and so on. i realy dont know if thats true but they are a very repitable shop and all they do is race cars and drag cars inport and domestic. they dont care.

so im done its over for me im putting another trans in and i selling the car its going back to stock even the exhaust im all so selling every thing i have and the other cobalt the 2.2 lt is gone. im going to use something better to build and race. im going to a awd evo not sure witch one yet but thats what im doing. and i know yall are going to say it the way i shift and drive ive grown up on manuals and i know what to do and what not to do even the ford escort trans is stronger then ares is. im not even mad about it these cars are crap and there warenty is to the car is great to drive and run but there cheaply made. and i dont want a auto and have to have that build with way to much money and becomes unstreetable. so ill show pics as soon as i can on what the trans looks like but its not priety the input shaft is hangng out the bell housing and theres somthing coming out the flat plate on the drivers side.

is there a stronger transmission that i may have missed before i make this final it has to be a manual

shawn672

damn...well i comend your efforts, you're a pioneer for the rest of us 2.2 guys. no matter what anyone says..you definetly had the coolest 2.2!

gl on your ventures with the evo, i think they're easier to build up..i dont understand how the trans in the 2.0's w/ Stage 3+n2o hold up fine, but it wont hold up in your car? that sucks, hopefully you can find a work around and stick with it.

let me kno if you're selling anything, i got a tiny bit of cash left maybe.

N8s07SS

That doesn't exist, unless you put a G85 tranny in your 2.4 of course.

Novajoe

The 2.0 ss trans has a different bolt pattern than our 2.2 crank... What flywheel did you use?

Of course you're the only one I've heard of with these kinds of tranny problems. So I wouldn't jump to conclusions and say the trannies are crap. If I were you I'd take a look at the crankshaft and see if it's not bent or you could possibly have a main bearing gone bad. I'd look into it though. If more people were having problems with it then you might be able to chalk it up to crappy build quality but that's not the case...

Whether it's something you did or not, the case of the snapping input shafts is more or less centered around you.

3fo893013L

Trust me, I've beaten the absolute snot out of my transmission, it's the clutch and throw out bearing and the lack of adequate continuous pressure on the lines in the trans. The trans is a fine piece. Capable in some cars for 250-400 lb ft of tq (depending on model).

yellowshowbalt

well im have in problems with mine .

i got the trans out of a wrecked 2.4 and it had a liitedslip diff and that was what i got
to last the longest. ps. i have never missed or grinded a gear they just keep breaking.

th0ughtless

Damn, I was hoping to see some more of that car. Well, good luck with the evo....

yellowshowbalt

quick question. how would i control the 4T65E trans in my car if yall dont know its a auto out of a 3800. its a 4 speed auto thats controled by a pcm. how would i use this or make it work?? if any one could help

D4u2s0t

bro i know you said it's not, but maybe it is your driving? i've never heard of anyone going through 3 trannies like that. the trannies are capable of holding more power than ANYONE here has put down on a 2.2

Novajoe

You would have to set up a standalone tcm setup for that trans... which may or may not be available.

You could try hardwiring the 4t65e tcm to your bcm... which may or may not be possible.

I'm not even sure if it would bolt up correctly... or for that matter even fit correctly. You would probably need custom half shafts made, custom shifter cables, bellhousing, any of a dozen things are going to be completely custom. Basically it would take a dam good transmission shop to pull that one off.

It's difficult enough to try and get a mechanical trans swap like that to work... without having to work with all the electrical factors also.

You're better off just buying a race tranny IMO.

yellowshowbalt

i dont think theres a race trany out there ..is there???

hatrickstu

iTrader: (1)

dude you did not get a LSD diff and tranny package out of a 2.4, it doesnt exist

Kerst

i was there friday it was the first time i went there with my sedan, i seen a yellow cobalt pull in and then get put on a trailer taken out. i never got a chance to meet you so i wasn't sure if it was your care or not cause i didn't see a photo of your balt.

Novajoe

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/parts-66/f-s-ecotec-1400hp-race-motor-76071/

the engine's sold already... but I'm pretty sure the tranny's still for sale

try asking halfcent about building up one of our autos. You can build it pretty dam strong

yellowshowbalt

im not getting in a debate with ya. but my last trans i pulled my self came out of a 2.4 SS and i was told by the guy who owned the car that it had a LSD diff. and trans package. so i asume thats the g85 package. all i know is both wheels used to spin all the time.. and that was the strongest trans i have had.

Novajoe

chances are he lied to you about having a lsd. But he could have installed one aftermarket. A car doesn't need a lsd to spin both wheels. If you have enough power then both wheels are going to spin regardless.

hatrickstu

iTrader: (1)

ah geez not this debate again...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...8c00096162.htm

whoa whoa whoa how did i do that with an opend dif?

IonNinja

you wont sell...just give yourself a couple days. everyone makes these kinda posts...lol

smartmlp

iTrader: (1)

It is sort of ironic, you can build the automatics for these cars up to be stronger then the manuals it seems.

yellowshowbalt

nice clutch slip on the end of the vid.

hatrickstu

iTrader: (1)

thats not odd at all, look at the majority of drag cars these days

RollermanDan

Engine and transmission were sold.

Yellow-

Also, I have a transmission for sale if you need one...also have an engine with Weisco Pistons, ARP Head Studs, Eagle Rods, and Cometic Head Gasket.

Sucks to hear about what happened to your car. I'd say keep the car and see if you can improve upon things. Come on man, someone's got to beat my 14.6 and I thought that would be you.

yellowshowbalt

what do you want for the trans

RollermanDan

Make me an offer, I wouldn't know what a new one would cost. Only has 8k miles on it. Keep in mind it'll have to be shipped freight. It'll come with stock axles as well.

Sw4y1313

I would have if the track was open when i was running around. =P