But for some of us, it's about the whine, the modest power, and easier install (well that's me anyway).

I want the ZZP SC setup, but I don't want to build my engine in the future, so their kit is the only thing my car may ever see. I just want that and a good tune and I'll be happy with somewhere in the 190-220whp range. I am just hoping to get my car into the 14 second quarter mile range if I ever take it to a track I'll find out. Then as long as I have all the suspension work done, I'll be extremely happy. Would love to take it to Road America or at least Brainerd International Raceway for a track session or two. I love cars that can handle and what's handling without a little power to back it up?

Now if I can get a sports car (something RWD and either V8 [GTO, Mustang GT, newer Camaro SS] or a turbo 4 [Sky RL or Solstice GXP]), then I would love to build it up. If I had money, I'd skip the Cobalt all together and buy my buddies GTO that's built (he's looking to sell this summer). Just needs to be SC'ed and it'll be tons of fun.

 

The s256 doesnt really lag at all, it pulls very nice and hard.

 

WTF...did they up the price on the SC kit? DAMN THEM!!! Oh well. I guess I save longer. They were priced identically I thought for the options I would choose.

 

i noticed the price hike today. supply and demand..........

 

you are going to have none of the traction my good man. but i wish you the best! =)

 

He will have enough with the correct tires.

 

Yeah Spanky (I just noticed it now after you posted that), that's why I say I will save longer. I really want this done, but I really want the car paid off...I may just have to save my money and after I've made some more payments and the payoff is equal to my bank account, BAM!, no car payment. Then I can try to justify this purchase with the wife once the car is paid off. Or maybe she'll let me get something else besides my DD.

 

Oh but of course. I was referring to his last tires that he had already taken tread off of

Q will you be running a set of street tires? or street radials?

 

225 Kdw II's, they hook "enough"

 

street tires til i can show the wife the lack of traction then i'll go get myself a good set of rubber.

 

dammmm, looks lovley! i love the piping setup!!i should have just waited and not bought my downpipe and header lol x_x. could have had like 400$ towards the turbo already!

 

hey, ion2, what injectors are you running?

 

^ WTF!! another $200 because they're out of stock??? they said they'll have more nex week..

 

Spanky was correct...they know they can charge more for it and people will buy it so they raised the price. I don't care, I still think it's reasonable considering they put EVERYTHING you need in there except exhaust and tune and gauges.

 

Can you use this ZZP turbo kit on an automatic 06 without much else needed to be purchased?

 

You mean a car exactly like the one the in this thread? I would read through each page of this thread if I were you

 

The only one I could think is being referred to is this one: http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...=922&catid=143 as I didn't find a link but did a search. I'm not too knowledgeable about this stuff so excuse me if I don't seem to know what I'm talking about. Would it be a bad idea to try the stage 3 with stock everything else? I plan on getting a new exhaust too btw.

 

Yeah, very bad idea without upgrading your internals. Stage 2 without upgrading internals is pushing the limits. The OP is doing that and he'll be building the engine down the road.

Stage 1 will probably put you around 180-200whp. Stage 2 will probably put you in the 225-250whp range. Stage 3 would be like 275-300whp range or more. The stock internals for the 2.2 can only handle about 250-275 crank hp. You're putting that or more to the crank with stage 2. Just have to keep the boost turned down if you want to go that route. All estimates are dependent on supporting mods as well.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on the whp estimates.

You could probably run the Stage 1 kit on a totally stock car, but you'd be wise to upgrade the exhaust at the very least. You will need a tune when you do this as well. That's going to cost another $200-300 depending on what you do for a tune.

 

Ok thanks.

So if I went with the stage 2 now and upgraded other parts slowly over time I could get a stage 3 upgrade kit and just install that later after everything else? I plan on doing as much as I can to my car just over time as I'm not rich. Would this then be better to get before an exhaust?

 

You are going to want to learn everything you can about forced induction and performance upgrades before you even attempt to purchase a turbo kit. If you don't, I can guarantee that you won't have a running car. Since you don't have much money. Just plan on buying everything and letting it sit in your garage before you install it...get EVERYTHING you need before installing...stay stock until you are ready to install it all. I would say that if you want to go stage 3, your first purchase would be a spare engine. Buy the engine, put it on a stand. Start buying all your internals and tear it down and build your engine. Once you're done with that portion, then you can get your turbo kit and everything else you'll need to go with it....which is going to be a lot. You'll be ready after you've invested about $10k total or more. That way you will have an engine you can swap in, install it all, have it running. If for some reason you want to go back to stock, then you have the original engine and it won't be a problem to swap that back in.

I am honestly going to suggest that you just sell your car and buy an 08 SS/TC and start with that right off the bat. You'll be way ahead for less money. And yes, insurance and payments will be more, but in the end, you'll have a lot less work to do and from the start you can have some fun.

 

the rods are no good after 250hp. the crank is fine till like 400hp. the engine is pretty dam solid. but yeah agreed, if you were gonna run stage 2, i would keep the boost wayyyyy down. and work on building your internals. or at the least, the rods.

 

^ Thanks for the input, I kind of worded it wrong...I didn't mean the crank would only take 250-275...just that the rods will only hold about 250-275hp. I don't know why I wrote it up as crank hp since we're talking about the engine itself....

 

Thanks for the help. I will have to look into how much it will cost to improve the internal stuff then. Since I'm not car savvy at all what parts would I need to upgrade and in which order would be best?

 

Well, you would be best off to do it all in one chunk, since the labor would be pretty extraordinary. A typical build for us costs about $4k parts and labor.

You will need to look at pistons, rods, head gasket, bearings, cryo treating the crank, stuff like that. Depending on your goals, you might need some more stuff.

 

How many places are willing to do this kind of work to a car?