This thread is stupid lol

 

why is this still even going??

 

What's next...is the lsj better than the LS7?

 

that's what i'm saying... but, newsflash... 2.2 2.4 and 2.0 are all the same engine with a few changes made between them... this is the most stupidest bumbest argument i ever read and stuff

 

Just curious, but wouldnt a 2.2 be converted to a 2.4 if you put a 2.4 head on a 2.2, cams and all? Aside from the computer....

 

from what i understand we get the extra 200cc of displacement from larger bore and stroke

 

I've owned a 2.2 and I currently own the 2.4. The 2.4 has it all over the 2.2 off the line or bottem end (whichever you prefer to call it) but let's say going from a 70 or 80mph roll....the 2.2 will take the 2.4.

Also, to give some track times, the best my 2.2 auto ran was a 16.5
The best my 2.4 auto has ran is a 15.7

My sis ran her 2.2 against my 2.4 during cruise night. She did a 16.9 while I did a 15.8. She also crossed the line with a faster trap speed. Her 86mph vs. my 84 I believe it was at the time.

 

Interesting thought.... 2.4 head hmmmmm.

 

The thing im most interested about is why the big time racers all use a 2.2L engine in theyre cobalts vs the 2.4l...

Could also be the fact that the ECOtec racing engine is a 2.2L..not sure though.

 

To convert a 2.2 into a 2.4 you'd need to replace the crank, rods, pistons, bore the block, swap out the head, change the intake manifold the exhaust manifold, most of the electronics would have to be changed as well as the cooling system and fan, the exhaust is different too so you'd have to swap that out as well.

You'd be better off just buying a 2.4 SS so you'd get the suspension and brake upgrades not to mention the body upgrades and interior changes.

I'm not knocking the 2.2 cars my mom has one and my old Cavi had a 2.2 ECO in it too.
My Cavi's best time was a 14.7 at like 94 mph, it was a 5spd with TONS of work. Stock my 2.4 off the line pulls harder but the 2.2 with all that work pulled harder at the top end. I'm sure that with the same work done to my 2.4 I should be real close to that as long as the automatic doesn't hold me back.

2.0SC > 2.4 VVT > 2.2 speed and horsepower wise before mods.

 

I cant believe this thread lasted this long...

Come on guys this is rediculous....They are all the same. The ECOtec family of engines is all the same. Although the 2.4 recieved different bore and stroke and VVTi...which is mainly in place so that the 2.4 can be competitive in fuel economy. The reason that racers choose to build from the 2.2 platform is due to that fact that high boost turbo motors build there power on the top end. So prior to the introduction of the LSJ 2.0 motors they used the 2.2 (which is identical in bore and stroke) and they DE-Stroked it. This allowed the the motor to run at a higher rpm.

So stop all this pot calling the kettle black pissing contest.

 

The 2.2 has been out for 4 years now, lots of stuff on the market for it.

 

the 2.2 is used instead of the 2.4 because the only real advantage of the 2.4 is the vvt which only kicks in in the higher revs, and since a drag car is always running in the higher revs, there is no need for it. i know that the 2.4 has tougher internals, but the race angines are highly built, so that doesnt really mean anyhting.

 

One of the reasons why some 2.2s are taking 2.4s is because engines are different... some are born more of a monster than others...

 

You also have to think about weight. Most of the 2.4's i saw were loaded with leather, sound, auto, sunroof, etc. Making them very heavy compared to say a 2.2 5-speed w/no options.

 

The 2.4 has more power and displacement. The VVT is supposed to give better fuel economy, they are both rated the same. The real advantage of the SS comes in the suspension.

I don't see a reason why either engine is better. Each one has their advantages, but then again "There is no replacement for displacment."
The 2.4 costs more to buy and to run, but it does have more power.

Only reason I didn't buy an 2.4 SS, didn't want to pay for premium gas that is reccomended. Everyone has a rite to their own opinion. If I would have know that I could have afforded an SS I would have gotton one.

 

oh god here we go.....let the war begin...now well have every 2.2 er in here jackin up this thread with ****....anyways i think for your money the 2.4 is better than the 2.2....but then agai the same thing can be said with the 2.0 vs 2.4.....

 

haha yeahhhh found that out the SE-R the fun way. Except I definatly think if you didn't suck that water up in to your engine you would have taken me. It was still a good race though and its crazy as all hell that I meet you and you owned an SS lol

But back on subject I would also think the 2.4 would be faster.

 

Have you even read this thread??? Have we jacked up anything??? Thanx for your blatant show of disrespect...

 

OMG... haven't you heard!? The 2.2L is teh fast@r! It beats 2.4L Cobalts, S/C Cobalts, and even Corvettes (all according to people on this site).





OH and by the way, I have a 14 inch dick, Jessica Alba is my girlfriend, and I make 29 million dollars a year.

 

Im not feeling the love in this thread

 

thx guys for your help, it's cool, i learn more about the 2.2 and 2.4, i think we should close this thread,see you later

 

This frickin thing is still goin????

Wheres a moderator at?

 

 

Hey, I just raced a Ferrari and beat it.